clan crest-MacSweeney

[macwilkin]

Maybe I'm looking at it wrong but if that's the case the MacQueen tartan and the MacQueen clan crest aren't quite right. Or are they?

One thing to point out, though: the clansman's badge displays the crest of the clan chief, which is part of the chief's arms -- it is not a "generic" symbol for the clan per se. When a clansman/woman wears the badge, it is saying I "belong" to the Chief, who is the head of the clan.

Given that the Irish never really adopted the Highland clan system per se, I'm wondering if the makers of said badge found a coat-of-arms for someone named McSweeney and used the crest as they would a Scottish clanman's badge?

T.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

One thing to point out, though: the clansman's badge displays the crest of the clan chief, which is part of the chief's arms -- it is not a "generic" symbol for the clan per se. When a clansman/woman wears the badge, it is saying I "belong" to the Chief, who is the head of the clan.

Given that the Irish never really adopted the Highland clan system per se, I'm wondering if the makers of said badge found a coat-of-arms for someone named McSweeney and used the crest as they would a Scottish clanman's badge?

T.

Insofar as it was possible, the crests depicted within the claddagh are those of the recognized Irish chiefs, or the crest (when known) of the last known or presumed chief.

For precisely the reason cited by Cajunscot the decision was taken to make the badges similar to, but different than, those worn by Scots. The claddagh being traditionally Irish and similar in design to the Scottish buckle and strap, it was the obvious choice for the Irish clan badge. The decision to place the name (in Irish) on the claddagh was taken after learning that it was the consensus of the Irish chiefs that they viewed the motto as personal, rather than generic. The spellings chosen are those most commonly encountered.

The original artwork was done by Romilly Squire and licensed exclusively to Gaelic Themes in Glasgow.

[macwilkin]

Insofar as it was possible, the crests depicted within the claddagh are those of the recognized Irish chiefs, or the crest (when known) of the last known or presumed chief.

For precisely the reason cited by Cajunscot the decision was taken to make the badges similar to, but different than, those worn by Scots. The claddagh being traditionally Irish and similar in design to the Scottish buckle and strap, it was the obvious choice for the Irish clan badge. The decision to place the name (in Irish) on the claddagh was taken after learning that it was the consensus of the Irish chiefs that they viewed the motto as personal, rather than generic. The spellings chosen are those most commonly encountered.

The original artwork was done by Romilly Squire and licensed exclusively to Gaelic Themes in Glasgow.

Scott: thanks for the clarification on this. I have seen these badges before, but I wondered what the source was for them.

Todd