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6th July 08, 02:10 PM
#11
What we are looking at is the Taklamakan tartan that is shown in Matt Newsome and James Bullman's Compendium of District Tartans
Thread count is Warp W4 A8 LT30 A8 LT30 A8... and Weft A4 LT30. The white only runs in the warp.
Brian
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6th July 08, 02:20 PM
#12
There we have it.
Thank you! I figured someone must have analyzed it, as it has been known for several years now.
Has anybody ever ordered any up through one of the mills?
Phil
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6th July 08, 07:04 PM
#13
 Originally Posted by BEEDEE
What we are looking at is the Taklamakan tartan that is shown in Matt Newsome and James Bullman's Compendium of District Tartans
Thread count is Warp W4 A8 LT30 A8 LT30 A8... and Weft A4 LT30. The white only runs in the warp.
Brian
Funny, I have that book and I didn't even think to check to see if it was in there.
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6th July 08, 07:17 PM
#14
wow, thats a weird tartan. looks like its for a basket or something.
Gillmore of Clan Morrison
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7th July 08, 01:29 AM
#15
Check Scotweb here. Is this it?
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7th July 08, 05:30 AM
#16
 Originally Posted by MacTavishOfJapan
Check Scotweb here. Is this it?
That's it!
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7th July 08, 06:20 AM
#17
Me likey! Given my Central Asian connections, that's a tartan I'd order. Phil . . . if you're serious, maybe we could get a custom run from someone. Fifty seven pounds per meter seems a bit steep for single width (at least, right now) . . . .
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7th July 08, 06:52 AM
#18
http://archaeological-burial-practic..._makan_mummies
"The Cherchen Mummies
Consisting of three women, a man and a baby, these mummies found south of Loulan were buried in approximately 10000BC. Their height features and tartan clothing suggests they were of European, perhaps Celtic origins..."
"The arid desert of western China and the Silk Road, the ancient caravan route through the heart of Asia. It is here in the shifting sands of the Taklamakan Desert in Xinjiang that the earliest tartan remnant was found.
Takla Makan means "go in and you'll never come out" but thankfully sometime around the 16th century an intrepid Swedish explorer, Sven Heden, managed to survive the hazardous desert crossing and emerge from the other side having made an incredible discovery.
He stumbled across the burial place of well-preserved mummies who, despite being in China, had all the facial characteristics of Caucasians. The textiles Heden found in their final resting place were beautifully woven from wool yarn, amongst which were flawlessly preserved, intricate tartans dating from between 1200 and 700 BC – which bore a striking similarity to Celtic tartans from northwest Europe.
Perhaps these early travellers were the victims of a natural disaster or were simply swallowed up by the fickle dangers of the desert. Celts are thought to have come originally from the southeast of Russia around the Caspian Sea, gradually heading westwards to Britain and France. Were these tartan-clad people early Scots?..."
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7th July 08, 08:42 AM
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Umm, 16th century? Sven Heden was a late 19th/early 20th century explorer.
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7th July 08, 09:52 AM
#20
 Originally Posted by Kilted in Maine
[url]"...Celts are thought to have come originally from the southeast of Russia around the Caspian Sea, gradually heading westwards to Britain and France. Were these tartan-clad people early Scots?..."[/I]
Once again, genetics is confused with culture.
The Scots, Irish and most people even now living in the British Isles descend from a group of humans who spent the last Ice Age on the Iberian peninsula, and then re-populated the Atlantic coast northward and regions inland from it. This is shown by the prevalance of Y-DNA haplogroup R1b among us.
The Celts were part of a culture that at one time encompassed most of Europe, and consisted of several different groups of peoples. Culture includes things such as folkways, language, clothing, diet, specific modes of manufacture, etc.
E.g., during the colonial period some Africans were enslaved, taken to the Carolinas, sold to Scots colonials, eventually learned Gaelic, exchanged their religion and folkways for that of Scots, worshipped in Gaelic, etc. Did they become Celts? One could say that they did. Did their DNA change because of it? Not a chance.
Last edited by gilmore; 7th July 08 at 10:00 AM.
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