Kilt wearer banned...

[george7]

If this had been a person wearing another national dress... there would've been a media frenzy!

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Thanks to Tommy for the full article, must of only been a snippet that was sent through to me.

Regards

Phil

[beloitpiper]

(From the article):

Mr Robson said: “I think this is completely racist towards Scottish people.

Ok, now I think both people on either side of the argument are a little crazy. One side claims to differentiate between "smart" and "fancy" dress, and the other side is calling racism?!? Ugh, I'll just stay out of it I guess.

[george7]

We at Xmarks would naturally feel discriminated against, but I don't know that it's racism so much as kilt-prejudice. To make a racial issue out of it would be a stretch. The argument was based solely on the clothing and not the person's beliefs. He would have been allowed to return if he were to wear trousers.

[gilmore]

If anyone would like to call or write the pub in question, Blackie Boy, their address is 11 Groat Market, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Tyne and Wear, NE1 1UQ and their phone number is 0191 2320730 according to http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs..._Boy/Newcastle

It is described as "Blackie's Boy is located at the bottom of the Bigg Market within a small cluster of traditional pubs. It is a stylish traditional pub with warm lighting, dark wood and plenty of seating. This pub has been around forever and is popular with older regulars wanting a quiet drink and to watch sporting events, especially horse racing. Although located in the Bigg Market, it doesn't attract many of the younger party goers and not many people under 30 years old come through the door."
http://www.carling.com/beerfinder/ve.../Blackie%20Boy You can also post comments about it at this URL.

The Newcastle City Council lists it as a place to go here: http://www.newcastle.gov.uk/vnev.nsf...C?opendocument At that site you can follow the links and contact the chief executive and others, and express your opinion.

Blackie Boy seems to have no email address, but you can write a review of it here: http://trustedplaces.com/review/uk/n...8s/blackie-boy

This pub can also be rated here: http://www.barcrawl.co.uk/pubreview.aspx?PubID=5161

It seems that it has recently been taken over by something known as The Fluid Group who can be reached at 0191 2320730 or 0191 22111880. They also own pubs call Barluga, Pacific Bar, Fluid, Perdu, and Quilted Camel, according to http://www.pubsnewcastle.co.uk/BlackieBoy.html

Reviews and comments can also be posted here: http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/36382/

It advertises at this site, http://www.newcastlestagparty.com/ni...lackie_boy.htm whose owners would probably like to know that kilt wearers are not welcome there.

Reviews can be posted here: http://www.newcastlestagparty.com/ni...lackie_boy.htm


Blackie Boy and the Fluid Group's other pubs can be rated here: http://www.barcrawl.co.uk/locations....ity=16&Area=86

Comments for travelrs can be posted here: http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic...r_England.html

Anotehr place where the Fluid Group's pubs are rated is here: http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs...ow_comments/5/

That's ten or so sites. They could keep some of us busy for at least a few minutes.

[gilmore]

In the article, it is said that Paul Robson is wearing his "family tartan." Does anyone recognize it? I don't think it is a tartan associated with Robson, Robertson, Robieson or any other variant spellings.

[Mipi]

Whoa...what? Ok, some bars have dress codes like "no shirt, no shoes, no service" but to say "Smart dress only" is absurd! These guys are insane if they think that helps their business.

Didn't someone post the thread on closing pubs in UK? No wonder.

[Nick]

One side claims to differentiate between "smart" and "fancy" dress...

Here that's a clear distinction. 'Fancy dress' is everyone in a group dressing up in cheap caveman costumes and doing a pub crawl, or a costume party, etc. It doesn't mean black or white tie. That's why it's especially offensive, it's quite explicitly calling the kilt nothing more than a cheap costume worn for laughs.

[beloitpiper]

Here that's a clear distinction. 'Fancy dress' is everyone in a group dressing up in cheap caveman costumes and doing a pub crawl, or a costume party, etc. It doesn't mean black or white tie. That's why it's especially offensive, it's quite explicitly calling the kilt nothing more than a cheap costume worn for laughs.

oh, well that explains things a bit, actually. Yeah, now I can see why he's pissed, but that still does not qualify as racism...at least in my book.

[Phil]

If they don't like the kilt then they don't get my business. I must say all the times I've been to Newcastle I've felt more at home than in places further south so I'm surprised at this. I can only assume they aren't Geordies.