Flat Caps. No no and thrice no! Suitable hats when wearing your kilt. Discuss

[Good Egg]

I personally think a flat cap looks great with a kilt and have worn one often. And I don't agree that people will think you look eccentric, at least no more than they do when you wear a kilt. Many people have told me that the flat cap looks great with the kilt. I think this may be another of those across the pond cultural differences. But then, I'm not looking to wear a kilt exactly like someone else would. I look at the kilt as another article of clothing to blend into my wardrobe.

The tweed jacket isn't a good example either. The normal sports jacket isn't cut for a kilt; that's why it looks wrong. A nice tweed jacket cut in the right fashion looks great.

Well quite: the flat cap isn't cut the right way for wearing with a kilt.

BTB I do not see a problem with the 'toque' (French for bon-homme de neige apparently) and a kilt in chillier climes.

When I say people will look and say oh dear you've got it wrong, I don't mean the trouser wearing masses, I mean other Scots (I include hyphen-Scots).

Maybe, and I'm speculating now, the problem is that the flat cap is thought to be more of an English piece of headgear which is why it jars so much when worn with a kilt.

ith:Smiley included because I have been know to wear a solar topee with a kilt: I was looking for something suitable for protection from the sun in Cyprus.

[davedove]

Maybe, and I'm speculating now, the problem is that the flat cap is thought to be more of an English piece of headgear which is why it jars so much when worn with a kilt.

You may have hit on it there and I can see that point of view. And, if I were trying to dress in a strictly Scottish fashion, I would follow that reasoning with my choices.

However, since in many cases I'm just using the kilt as another article of clothing, it doesn't really bother me. Maybe that's because, as a "new-worlder", I'm pretty well blended myself.

[Good Egg]

You may have hit on it there and I can see that point of view. And, if I were trying to dress in a strictly Scottish fashion, I would follow that reasoning with my choices.

However, since in many cases I'm just using the kilt as another article of clothing, it doesn't really bother me. Maybe that's because, as a "new-worlder", I'm pretty well blended myself.

The more I sit and think about it the more I think I may be right. The first time I saw a flat cap worn with a kilt was at a Regimental Games. A very junior officer who is English was wearing his kilt with a checked shirt, cravat, and flat cap. I remember the RSM approaching, saluting and saying:

"Ah! Mr Chomodoly-Warner you have the look of an Englishman wearing a kilt, Sir, aye an Englishman wearing a kilt" salutes and wanders off.

He pronounced Chomodoly as 'Ker-mod-olly' which added to the general put down effect.

[walkerk]

As of late there seem to be a great number of discordant threads about hats on a forum meant for kilts.

The Kilt Police - they'll occasionally let their guard down, take a break, and have a pint with you.

But beware the Hat Police! They're ever vigilant. Always on the job. ith:

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Maybe, and I'm speculating now, the problem is that the flat cap is thought to be more of an English piece of headgear which is why it jars so much when worn with a kilt.

If this was about bowlers rather than flat caps I'd agree... In my opinion flat caps (until 'ball caps swept o'r the land like a might plague) were the head gear of the working class. True, us toffs wore them shooting, bicycling, and motoring, but we took them off the moment sweaty pursuits were ended. So did working class blokes and jocks.

A Scot would no more wear a flat cap with his kilt than he would toss on a donkey jacket on his way to the Aboyne Games. It wasn't that he was embarrassed to be a working class Scot-- he wasn't, nothing shameful about an honest day's work-- it was showing the world that he knew and respected the traditions and social conventions as well as the next man. And it was this attitude that gained him the respect of the "next man" be that next man a duke or a dustman.

[Adam Pound]

Good heavens man! A toque is as follows:

"A toque or tuque (Canadian French: tuque, sometimes also spelled touque in English[dubious – discuss]) is a knitted hat, originally of wool though now often of synthetic fibers, that is designed to provide warmth in winter. All tuques are tapered, they sometimes have ear-flaps, and may be topped with a pom-pon, this style of tuque is sometimes referred to as a sherpa.[citation needed] Tuques may have a folded brim, or none, and may be worn tightly fitting the skull or loose on top although the latter is considered more standard. The tuque usually is considered Canada's national winter hat, much like the fur hat is in Russia." Courtesy of Wikipedia.

Bonhomme de Neige is a fat snow man found rampaging through the streets of Quebec City in the winter ( and he'd look great in a kilt!)

[Good Egg]

Good heavens man! A toque is as follows:

"A toque or tuque (Canadian French: tuque, sometimes also spelled touque in English[dubious – discuss]) is a knitted hat, originally of wool though now often of synthetic fibers, that is designed to provide warmth in winter. All tuques are tapered, they sometimes have ear-flaps, and may be topped with a pom-pon, this style of tuque is sometimes referred to as a sherpa.[citation needed] Tuques may have a folded brim, or none, and may be worn tightly fitting the skull or loose on top although the latter is considered more standard. The tuque usually is considered Canada's national winter hat, much like the fur hat is in Russia." Courtesy of Wikipedia.

Bonhomme de Neige is a fat snow man found rampaging through the streets of Quebec City in the winter ( and he'd look great in a kilt!)

'Bonhomme de Neige' is also a name for a woolly hat, as worn by a snowman. I was being facetious like pointing out that the French have no word for 'entrepreneur'.

In fact I don't mind if you put a flat cap on a snowman - as long as he is not wearing a kilt.

BTB I do hope people accept that my ranting is tongue in cheek - even if it has a serious point.

[be da veva]

'Bonhomme de Neige' is also a name for a woolly hat, as worn by a snowman. I was being facetious like pointing out that the French have no word for 'entrepreneur'.

Well, I've never heard of that one before, In french, bonhomme de neige is snowman. And the big white thing dancing in the streets of Quebec city is called " Le Bonhomme Carnaval"

Now back to topic (some)

M.Newsome, I do believe this is the first time I have seen you in pants...
(other than kilt of course...)

[svc40bt]

M.Newsome, I do believe this is the first time I have seen you in pants...

I was thinking that too.

[ForresterModern]

M.Newsome, I do believe this is the first time I have seen you in pants...
(other than kilt of course...)

I was going to say something about that too, but you beat me to it. Must be a VERY OLD picture.