Is this Traditional?

[Bigkahuna]

Robert Griffing has a number of pictures of this type. Some using Fort Ticonderoga as a background. All his paintings are very well researched.

[Bigkahuna]

There are also members of this forum who have already done recreations of 18th century Highland Regiments. You might like to talk to some of them about patterns Etc.

[Scotus]

You might want to re-post your question on the "General Kilt Talk" forum and see if you get more informed answers than mine.

I agree. When I saw that it was in this forum, looked at the title, and viewed the picture, I was thinking, "I hope you don't dress like that thinking it's 'traditional'." When I read the actual question I thought it might belong in General Kilt Talk. The historic/reenactment crowd may not go to this section frequently; therefore, the best people to answer your question might not see it.

However, to answer your question, it looks very accurate for historical/reenactment attire. BTW, here in Illinois (New France) we have some wonderful, old French forts.

[DWFII]

After all, flat caps were historically worn with the kilt around the turn of the nineteen-hundreds, and there are photographs and probably paintings which demonstrate this; which is what got me in so much trouble with them. Just because something has been done or popular in the past, doesn't make it traditional or acceptable, as I understand it.

I suppose we do need a historical attire sub-forum because I don't think the historical and historical revival attire really belongs in the contemporary and non-traditional forum either...

A small point (not wanting to hijack the thread) but one that speaks to what is appropriate in a Traditional Highland Dress Forum...

While the attire depicted in the painting is undoubtedly historically accurate, it is not traditional Highland Dress...simply because it has no currency today.

On the other hand, despised as they may be among some, there may be a case to be made that flat caps are Traditional Highland Dress, in my opinion. If you can find photos of people who have a legitimate claim or reason to wear the kilt (such as a highlander) wearing flat caps with kilts in the early 1900's and it can be shown that that practice has continued to the current time, it is by definition "traditional."

It has been passed down from generation to generation...which is the central tenet of tradition.

[sathor]

What I think is being said is that, when boiled down, it could be compared to blue jeans. You could wear them backwards, as was done for a time in the 90's, and it would be accurate for that period, but it would not be traditional nor contemporary by any means, and is just a reflection of a small footnote of history.

[longfletch]

some of His majesty's American Rangers wore kilts and "semi" highland garb during the mid 1700's. i found it interesting they wouldnt let the rangers wear a loin cloth, so they allowed the kilt. i guess the rangers raved over the freedom of a loin cloth. heres some pics
sorry if its kind of off topic

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...a%3DG%26um%3D1

[JolyStNicholas]

Love that painting/print, I too would love to have it hanging.

[macwilkin]

What I think is being said is that, when boiled down, it could be compared to blue jeans. You could wear them backwards, as was done for a time in the 90's, and it would be accurate for that period, but it would not be traditional nor contemporary by any means, and is just a reflection of a small footnote of history.

I would hardly call the service of the Highland regiments a "small footnote of history". It can be argued that the Highland regiments, as depicted in the painting above, "saved" Highland dress to an extent after the Proscription Act.

Todd

[Bugbear]

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[Devlyn]

Hey WVPiper. Which fort do you live near? I am also from WV, and a Highland reenactor. I can try to help you with whatever you need. As for the picture, if you recreate that, as long as you have the correct pattern for whichever rank you are portraying for the jacket, and you use period correct fabrics, this depiction is extremely accurate for the 1780's American Frontier.