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                                                18th July 09, 10:24 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			Military Historians, I need help
		
			
				
					I'm watching a documentary on the Revolutionary War and I see a lot of British uniforms that look kinda like this:
 
  
 My question is: what is that gold thing hanging around his neck and what does it do?  Is it a medal or award?  Or does it serve some purpose I'm not aware of?
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                18th July 09, 10:37 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					It's a gorget. I'm no expert, but I believe at this period in time (18th cen.) they are generally ornamental, and worn by officers.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                18th July 09, 10:42 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Spot on & well said, Tim.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Tim Little   It's a gorget . I'm no expert, but I believe at this period in time (18th cen.) they are generally ornamental, and worn by officers. 
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                                                18th July 09, 01:18 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Thanks guys!  I thought it looked like some kind of armor, but seemed a bit out of place.  This makes sense.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                18th July 09, 02:01 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	It was a piece of armor to protect the throat and was carried over as ornamentation as stated previously.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by beloitpiper   Thanks guys!  I thought it looked like some kind of armor, but seemed a bit out of place.  This makes sense. Drum Major and Piper with the Atholl Highlanders Pipes and Drums of Stone Mountain, GA
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                18th July 09, 02:24 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					a gorget, it is ornamental piece, carried over from the days of the suits of armour...meant to protect the throat.. usually worn by Officers. In the Rev War, it was worn by all sides.. George Washington was painted wearing one.
 I have seen some wonderful examples of presentation pieces made for/by Native Americans during this same era..
 
				
					Last edited by dfmacliam; 18th July 09 at 02:49 PM.
				
				
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                                                18th July 09, 07:31 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					The picture you have is of an officer of The Royal Welch Fusileers, 23rd Regiment of Foot. They have the Prince of Wales crest and Regimental number engraved on their Gorget. Most regiment had some regimental device or the Royal Coat of Arms on their Gorget. G. Gedney Godwin and several other Sutlers sell them, only not regimentally marked. He is also improperly dressed as he has his sword belt over his epaulet. In full dress he would be wearing a Bearskin cap similar but slightly smaller than a Grenadier's.
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                                                18th July 09, 07:33 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Just another small note. In the 78th Fraser's Highlanders, the gorget is awarded as an honor after reaching a certain level of expertise within the Regiment.
				 
				
					Last edited by Bigkahuna; 18th July 09 at 07:34 PM.
				
				
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                                                18th July 09, 07:52 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Some nice pix on the RWFIA site, btw, including this one from the 225th anniversary of Yorktown:
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Bigkahuna   The picture you have is of an officer of The Royal Welch Fusileers, 23rd Regiment of Foot. They have the Prince of Wales crest and Regimental number engraved on their Gorget. Most regiment had some regimental device or the Royal Coat of Arms on their Gorget.... In full dress he would be wearing a Bearskin cap similar but slightly smaller than a Grenadier's. 
 
   
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                19th July 09, 03:29 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Now THAT'S a good picture.Check out the Hessians in the Background.
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