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    Quote Originally Posted by O'Callaghan View Post
    Doesn't actually seem to stop them, though, does it?
    Yes, it does. It likely stops the chiefs, chieftans and other well-informed, responsible persons from claiming surnames as their septs that are clearly not associated with their clan. What it doesn't stop is tartan merchants, armchair genealogists, and people bound and determined to be descended from Scots no matter what, from coming up with all sorts of spurious claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilmore View Post
    Yes, it does. It likely stops the chiefs, chieftans and other well-informed, responsible persons from claiming surnames as their septs that are clearly not associated with their clan. What it doesn't stop is tartan merchants, armchair genealogists, and people bound and determined to be descended from Scots no matter what, from coming up with all sorts of spurious claims.
    And yet both the Campbells & the Gordons claim the Muirs (More / Moore / Mure) as septs. However one source states they are no longer officially septs of the House of Gordon, & yet their website still lists them as such. Go figure


    from the Campbells website:
    The inclusion of the name Mure, Muir, or Moore among Campbell septs is perhaps rather optimistic since the family have a perfectly good Chief of their own in the person of Mure of Rowallan, in Ayrshire, one of Scotland’s oldest and most historic families.
    [SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
    [SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]

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