...to be kilted at prom...

[Red Stag]

I haven't read all of the posts in this thread but I would say to just wear the kilt. Wasn't it Benjamin Franklin who said that it is better to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission. Don't wear a sgain dubh though or you will probably get busted for possession of a weapon on school property.

[muirkirkca]

I would tend to drop the matter this time but pursue it for the spring or graduation prom. The letter posted is way to long and need not be a history lesson.

Points to cover are:
Prom is very important to you and your partner.
Instead of a tux or business suit plan on wearing formal kilt attire which consists of kilt, white shirt black jacket and tie and knee socks etc.
Attire is in recognition of your Scottish American Heritage.
Have full support of your parents and partner.
Seek your agreement as this is important to me and date.
Please reply

Yours truly
name address e-mail

[Strings]

I'm going to disagree with those who say "just drop it if he says no".

Officials (of whatever stripe) are very much lilke teenagers: they push until they hit hard limits. By NOT calling them on the little stuff, you encourage them to push further.

Is the kilt at prom issue a big deal? No. However, similar issues have been let go in the past, with administrators then taking on more authority over folks. I personally know of one instance where a school official basically held a girl against her will, until she would consent to a pregnancy test...

If the principal says "no", and can't come up with a VERY convincing argument (better than what's been given), all correspondance should be given to the local press. Make him wish he'd just said "yes" and let it go.

IF he should try (as others have hinted at) to make your life difficult while still under his control, that should ALSO be brought to the press (and possibly, depending on his actions, the courts).

Pull him up short, and (if necessary) do so hard... ;)

[Nighthawk]

I'm going to disagree with those who say "just drop it if he says no".

Officials (of whatever stripe) are very much lilke teenagers: they push until they hit hard limits. By NOT calling them on the little stuff, you encourage them to push further.

Is the kilt at prom issue a big deal? No. However, similar issues have been let go in the past, with administrators then taking on more authority over folks. I personally know of one instance where a school official basically held a girl against her will, until she would consent to a pregnancy test...

If the principal says "no", and can't come up with a VERY convincing argument (better than what's been given), all correspondance should be given to the local press. Make him wish he'd just said "yes" and let it go.

IF he should try (as others have hinted at) to make your life difficult while still under his control, that should ALSO be brought to the press (and possibly, depending on his actions, the courts).

Pull him up short, and (if necessary) do so hard... ;)

I talked to my about this. He has said the exact same thing- about the admin, I mean. I mention this because he's a retired career teacher who has been in it since well before I was born. He has in the past made the same analogy between admin and students. Give them an inch and they take a mile.

[CalMcGuire]

Give them an inch and they take a mile.

Most definitely true. They may be authority figures, but that doesn't mean you have to do everything they say. Defend your rights to wear the kilt.

[Strings]

It's very similar with anyone in a position of authority: they act like teenagers, pushing until they find their limits.

The reason you hear about police abuses so much today is that folks don't say "No, you're NOT doing this, actually". Since they don't hit limits put in place by the citizenry, they figure they can keep doing abusive things. Same here...

[PEEDYC]

Once upon a time all Scots were banned from wearing the tartan / kilt. Look where it is now. Keep up the pressure.

[Nighthawk]

It's very similar with anyone in a position of authority: they act like teenagers, pushing until they find their limits.

The reason you hear about police abuses so much today is that folks don't say "No, you're NOT doing this, actually". Since they don't hit limits put in place by the citizenry, they figure they can keep doing abusive things. Same here...

I carry business cards with the first ten amendments from the Bill Of Rights just for such occasions. If you want to search me or my car, give a good reason for it. The same goes for kids with their backpacks. Forcible searches of kid's property is illegal, and yet tolerated. Just because you're a minor doesn't mean your don't have the same civil rights as everyone else. ***Off my soapbox now***


***EDIT*** I just looked at your BACAUSA website. I know two old bikers who would be most interested in this particular biker gang. I'm going to pass the website along to them.

[Strings]

Just remember, we're not a gang: we're a 501c3 non-profit organization

[Nighthawk]

Just remember, we're not a gang: we're a 501c3 non-profit organization

Definition of "gang"- a group of people who, through the organization, formation, and establishment of an assemblage, share a common identity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang

You most certainly are a gang! "Gang" is a word that is neutral, like cult, curse and conspiracy, which has been given a negative spin in our current tabloid, need-for-controversy culture. When used correctly, their intended meaning should be interpreted from the context. No disrespect was intended- it was a simple observation.

I mentioned my friends, one of whom rode with the Angels for many years, and now both ride in every charity ride in Colorado, and teach self defense to kids. The ex Angel is one of my best friends, and my martial arts instructor. The reason I used the reference to biker gangs is because it was most relevant to them. There is no negative connotation put into the word.