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                                                16th February 10, 03:37 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			Sheriffmuir tie options
		
			
				
					Hi guys. I've got a really nice sheriffmuir doublet and I'm planning to wear it at the upcoming Ferintosh Burns Supper.I've tried to look into detail on what, other than a lace jabotm can be worn with such a jacket. I have found several websites that contradict each other on whether a Highland cravat or bow-tie can be worn with it.
 
 I'm thinking of the Highland cravat (note: not a ruche/scrunchy tie) option, as the cravat is tied rather plainly and left quite flat, however I'm not sure if there are any other options to this? I normally like to be quite experimental and contemporary with Highland wear, however I feel this is one jacket that requires a bit more of a traditional setting around it. I basically think a lace jabot can look pretty good, but I'm not up for wearing one at the moment.
 
 What do you guys think would be acceptable with the sheriffmuir doublet?
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                                                16th February 10, 04:33 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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                                                16th February 10, 04:54 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	I suppose it is easier to say what doesn't work with the Sheriffmuir: Bow ties and four-in-hand ties.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Paul.   Hi guys. I've got a really nice sheriffmuir doublet and I'm planning to wear it at the upcoming Ferintosh Burns Supper.I've tried to look into detail on what, other than a lace jabotm can be worn with such a jacket. I have found several websites that contradict each other on whether a Highland cravat or bow-tie can be worn with it.
 
 I'm thinking of the Highland cravat (note: not a ruche/scrunchy tie) option, as the cravat is tied rather plainly and left quite flat, however I'm not sure if there are any other options to this? I normally like to be quite experimental and contemporary with Highland wear, however I feel this is one jacket that requires a bit more of a traditional setting around it. I basically think a lace jabot can look pretty good, but I'm not up for wearing one at the moment.
 
 What do you guys think would be acceptable with the sheriffmuir doublet?
 
 For something a bit less formal than a jabot and lace cuffs your best bet is probably a stock tie (as worn by equestrians) with a pin at the throat, and plain cuffs with simple cuff links.  I've no idea what a "Highland cravat" is, but from your description it sounds like a stock tie.  Stock ties are white, wrap around the neck, and tie in front.  You should be able to get one at any reasonably sized tack shop.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                16th February 10, 05:03 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	From what I understand it is pretty much this:
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown   I suppose it is easier to say what doesn't work with the Sheriffmuir: Bow ties and four-in-hand ties. 
 For something a bit less formal than a jabot and lace cuffs your best bet is probably a stock tie (as worn by equestrians) with a pin at the throat, and plain cuffs with simple cuff links.  I've no idea what a "Highland cravat" is, but from your description it sounds like a stock tie.  Stock ties are white, wrap around the neck, and tie in front.  You should be able to get one at any reasonably sized tack shop.
 
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                                                16th February 10, 05:39 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Okay-- that's exactly what I was referring to, and it is perfect for a slightly less formal look (more along the lines of black tie) when wearing a Sherrifmuir.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Paul.   From what I understand it is pretty much this:  
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                                                16th February 10, 07:26 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	I agree with MoR.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown   Okay-- that's exactly what I was referring to, and it is perfect for a slightly less formal look (more along the lines of black tie) when wearing a Sherrifmuir.
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                                                16th February 10, 07:33 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I have seen someone - not kilted, but wearing a suit jacket somewhat similar to a Sheriffmuir - sporting a Regency-style neckcloth, tied in a bow, much like this one:
 
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                                                16th February 10, 07:48 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	I rather like that, but it would take some attitude to pull it off.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by NewGuise   I have seen someone - not kilted, but wearing a suit jacket somewhat similar to a Sheriffmuir - sporting a Regency-style neckcloth, tied in a bow, much like this one:
 
 I also like the stock cloth for a more tailored look.  It would be a good way to wear a nice stickpin.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                16th February 10, 08:38 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					To answer just such a question, I put together this little collage showing how different neckwear looks with a Sheriffmuir doublet.
  From upper left, going clockwise:
 Necktie, solid waistcoat
 Necktie, tartan waistcoat
 Bowtie, solid waistcoat
 Cravat, solid waistcoat
 Cravat, tartan waistcoat
 Lace Jabot, tartan waistcoat
 No neckwear, tartan waistcoat
 No neckwear, plain waistcoat
 
 I included those last two just to give a basis for comparion.  I don't think I'd ever wear the Sheriffmuir without some kind of neckwear.  Of the above, the option I like the least is the bow tie, though that could very well be because I don't like that particular bowtie.  This image from Highland Clans shows a velvet sheriffmuir worn with a bow tie that I like the look of much better.
 
  
 Of course, the classic look is the lace jabot, but if one wanted something more understated, I certainly think the cravat looks nice.  I'm actually surprised at how nice the plain neck tie looks, but it certainly dresses it down.  I'd recommend it only if one wanted to make the doublet somewhat less formal.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                16th February 10, 09:36 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Thanks Matt. I didn't know there were so many ways of wearing it. Since I have one this was very helpful.
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