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    Thanks for your responses, perhaps I should say I would like to replicate the "alleged knife of possible RRM origins supposedly to reside in Abbotsford". May need JerseyLaywer to tighten that up for me a bit
    I had a fellow swear that his 1873 Winchester was used in the 1836 Battle of the Alamo. "Fanciful Embelishment" was a term I learned a way back.
    Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taygrd View Post
    Thanks for your responses, perhaps I should say I would like to replicate the "alleged knife of possible RRM origins supposedly to reside in Abbotsford". May need JerseyLaywer to tighten that up for me a bit
    It's not allegedly a knife. It really is a knife. And it really resides in Abbotsford.

    Perhaps, "The knife, now residing in Abbotsford, that Rob Roy allegedly once owned."

    Unless, of course, in the words of another great Knight of the Realm, Sir Humphrey Appleby, "the precise correlation between the information [Sir Walter Scott] communicated and the facts, insofar as they can be determined and demonstrated, is such as to cause epistemological problems, of sufficient magnitude as to lay upon the logical and semantic resources of the English language a heavier burden than they can reasonably be expected to bear." :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyLawyer View Post
    Unless, of course, in the words of another great Knight of the Realm, Sir Humphrey Appleby, "the precise correlation between the information [Sir Walter Scott] communicated and the facts, insofar as they can be determined and demonstrated, is such as to cause epistemological problems, of sufficient magnitude as to lay upon the logical and semantic resources of the English language a heavier burden than they can reasonably be expected to bear." :P
    I may need to use that quote in a staff meeting.

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    Highlanders of Rob Roy's era did not carry the sgian dubh as we know it: the small knife worn in the hose top. That practice began nearly a century after his death! The sgian shown in that display case is NOT an early 18th C. piece, as far as I can see.

    Rob almost certainly carried a sgian achlais, or armpit dagger, which was a more substantial weapon than the little sgian dubh, which is just a fancy utility knife....
    you beat me to it Woodsheal
    but this is my understanding also
    I'm an 18th century guy born into the 20th century and have been dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century.

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    Somewhere I have a photo of a sporran and a dirk handle purported to have once belonged to Rob Roy....I'll see if I can dig it up in the next day or two.
    [SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
    [SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoldHighlander View Post
    Somewhere I have a photo of a sporran and a dirk handle purported to have once belonged to Rob Roy....I'll see if I can dig it up in the next day or two.
    Here's the photo I mentioned in the previous post (above) that purports to be the sporran & dirk handle once belonging to Rob Roy:



    They are taken from the book "Highlanders: A History of the Scottish Clans" by Fitzroy Maclean (1995). They are both credited to the Trustees of the Tenth Duke of Argyll.
    [SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
    [SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Gondek View Post
    you beat me to it Woodsheal
    but this is my understanding also
    ...and both of you beat me to it.

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