celtic confederate jackets worm with kilts

[SlackerDrummer]

Or how about the recent thread about the Swinging Six (the sporran of the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders), in paticular the masked badger version.
I was of the opinion that a civilian version was fine to wear, but leave the military version for the guys serving (or for historical reenactment purposes). In that thread one of our newer members (a current serving officer with the A&SH's) mentioned that since the amalgamation into the Royal Regt of Scotland, that the wearing of the swinging six has ceased. He encouraged the civilian wearing of the full mask badger swinging six as a way of honouring this old tradition.
Now, what am I to make of that? Should I feel concerned about making a mockery of a very proud Highland Regiment, and possibly insulting an old jock, when I have the blessing of (currently) serving member of said regiment to wear this former uniform item (once reserved for NCO's & Officers of the Argylls)?

I had some laundry to fold, so had time to think before going to bed. I think this is a straw man argument and not at all analogous to the Confederate uniform/kilt issue. The sporran, while a prominent feature in Highland attire, is in the end, an accessory. Wearing this sporran in honor of the regiment is more analogous to the buttons I wear on my Argyle jacket, or wearing a cap badge that commemorates a relative's or ancestor's service. Wearing a kilt with the Confederate uniform is like taking the top half of one person and the bottom half of another. It isn't borrowing from a uniform in an effort to create an homage, it's altering a uniform and making it something different.

[BoldHighlander]

I had some laundry to fold, so had time to think before going to bed. I think this is a straw man argument and not at all analogous to the Confederate uniform/kilt issue. The sporran, while a prominent feature in Highland attire, is in the end, an accessory. Wearing this sporran in honor of the regiment is more analogous to the buttons I wear on my Argyle jacket, or wearing a cap badge that commemorates a relative's or ancestor's service. Wearing a kilt with the Confederate uniform is like taking the top half of one person and the bottom half of another. It isn't borrowing from a uniform in an effort to create an homage, it's altering a uniform and making it something different.

Perhaps (or not), but it was a uniform item (accessory if you wish, but still part of the uniform) worn only by the senior NCO's & the Officers of a particular unit (in this case the A&SH's) that neither you nor I belonged to, and thus neither of us were entitled to wear.

The Argylls have a rather proud history, and I'm sure the jocks who have served in the regiment are just as fiercely proud & loyal to their traditions & uniform (kilt or otherwise) as a former Marine is to his (I know for a fact that they are).

So the analogy of wearing the swinging six was really no different than that of wearing a Marine Corps dress uniform to the VA/or ball that you are not entitled to. The only difference is that a current serving member of the A&SH's gave his blessing & encouraged the wearing of the former uniform item to honour the old Highland tradition......accessory or not its still a portion of the uniform, just as a Confederate shell jacket is just a portion of the overall uniform (or just as a Special Forces green beret is just a portion of their overall uniform, etc, etc).

In the end, it really matters not what any of us say or think, short of physically stripping the jacket off anyone's back, (yeah, right...see how far you get doing that! ), those in the real world will continue to wear the kilt/Confederate uniform combo as they see fit.

.....so much for my self imposed silence on the subject!

"Every time I try to get out, they keep pulling me back in!"

[davidlpope]

In the end, it really matters not what any of us say or think, short of physically stripping the jacket off anyone's back, (yeah, right...see how far you get doing that! ), those in the real world will continue to wear the kilt/Confederate uniform combo as they see fit.

Did you really just say "those in the real world will continue to wear the kilt/Confederate uniform combo as they see fit"?

I'm as proud as the next guy of my ancestors' military service, but really, there is absolutely nothing "real world" about wearing an American Civil War reproduction uniform jacket with a Highland kilt.To me it seems downright silly and by doing so one proclaims one's own ignorance. I can only imagine that there's some ancient crofter on Lewis that would laugh his head off when confronted with a picture of such shenanigans....

David