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    If I could have my druthers...

    Coat of Arms: Azure, a fess raguly gules between in chief, a cross moline sable between two ravens observant of the same, and in base a bear rampant of the third.

    Crest: A gryphon passant sable, holding a sword proper

    Motto: Ego planto mea fortuna (I make my own fate.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVHighlander View Post
    If I could have my druthers...

    Coat of Arms: Azure, a fess raguly gules between in chief, a cross moline sable between two ravens observant of the same, and in base a bear rampant of the third.

    Crest: A gryphon passant sable, holding a sword proper

    Motto: Ego planto mea fortuna (I make my own fate.)
    Unfortunatley this won't fly, because it violates the first rule of armoury; that being that you can not place colour upon colour. If you change the shield from azure (blue) to or (gold) or argent (silver) then you are off and away!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown View Post
    Unfortunatley this won't fly, because it violates the first rule of armoury; that being that you can not place colour upon colour. If you change the shield from azure (blue) to or (gold) or argent (silver) then you are off and away!
    Or you could make it a fess raguly Gules fimbriated Argent (or Or).

    Not something you see very often, but it would solve the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVHighlander View Post
    I said if I had my druthers.

    I was going to go with argent in the field however, the over-emphasis of silver as representing peace. However, if I were to follow the traditional rules I would substitute the Azure for Argent...

    I went for blue to represent strength.
    There is no historical basis for the colors on a coat of arms representing any particular virtues.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cygnus View Post
    Or you could make it a fess raguly Gules fimbriated Argent (or Or).

    Not something you see very often, but it would solve the problem.
    Not quite. There is the matter of the other charges which would still be black on blue.
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    My family has used a particular coat of arms for centuries (not only in South Africa but also in Württemberg), but we cannot prove a blood connection with the family that actually owns it (who live in Franconia, that is to say northern Bavaria).
    So I altered the layout of the shield and changed the crest, coming up with this:

    I plan to register it in Pretoria, but don’t have the means at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlackerDrummer View Post
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    Not quite. There is the matter of the other charges which would still be black on blue.
    Yes, I'm not sure what to do about the ravens - they just wouldn't be the same if they weren't sable.

    Maybe divide the shield per-fess argent and azure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cygnus View Post
    Yes, I'm not sure what to do about the ravens - they just wouldn't be the same if they weren't sable.

    Maybe divide the shield per-fess argent and azure?
    The ravens could be blazoned Proper, and avoid the colour on colour problem on a technicality!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR View Post
    The ravens could be blazoned Proper, and avoid the colour on colour problem on a technicality!


    I didn't even know that was how it worked! You learn something new everyday (usually multiple things if you hang around this forum).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR View Post
    The ravens could be blazoned Proper, and avoid the colour on colour problem on a technicality!
    A technicality that is often used to excuse bad heraldry.
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