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15th April 11, 09:38 AM
#1
I have a question, what is the order of monarchy after the queen?
Hope that isnt disrespectful, just a curious American.
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[COLOR="DarkGreen"][SIZE="2"]"I consider looseness with words no less of a defect than looseness of the bowels."[/SIZE][/COLOR] [B]- John Calvin[/B]
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15th April 11, 09:51 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by Burly Brute
I have a question, what is the order of monarchy after the queen?
Hope that isnt disrespectful, just a curious American.
The Line of Succession is:
Current monarch: HM Queen Elizabeth II (born 1926)
1. HRH The Prince of Wales (Prince Charles, b 1948)
2. HRH Prince William of Wales (b 1982)
3. HRH Prince Henry of Wales (b 1984)
4. HRH The Duke of York (Prince Andrew, b 1960)
5. HRH Princess Beatrice of York (b 1988)
6. HRH Princess Eugenie of York (b 1990)
7. HRH The Earl of Wessex (Prince Edward, b 1964)
8. Viscount Severn (James, b 2007)
9. The Lady Louise Windsor (b 2003)
10. HRH The Princess Royal (Princess Anne, b 1950)
11. Peter Phillips (b 1977)
12. Savannah Phillips (b 2010)
13. Zara Phillips (b 1981)
.........HRH The Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon (1930–2002)
14. Viscount Linley (David Armstrong-Jones, b 1961)
15. The Honourable Charles Armstrong-Jones (b 1999)
16. The Honourable Margarita Armstrong-Jones (b 2002)
17. The Lady Sarah Chatto (b 1964)
18. Samuel Chatto (b 1996)
19. Arthur Chatto (b 1999)
20. HRH The Duke of Gloucester (Prince Richard, b 1944)
21. Earl of Ulster (Alexander Windsor, b 1974)
22. Lord Culloden (Xan Windsor, b 2007)
23. The Lady Cosima Windsor (b 2010)
24. The Lady Davina Lewis (b 1977)
25. Senna Lewis (b 2010)
All the way down to -
2395. Katherine von Grabmayr (b 1967)
Regards
Chas
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15th April 11, 10:10 AM
#3
Cool! Thank you so much, very interesting. What exactly is the standard for succession? Like, bloodline or something?
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[COLOR="DarkGreen"][SIZE="2"]"I consider looseness with words no less of a defect than looseness of the bowels."[/SIZE][/COLOR] [B]- John Calvin[/B]
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15th April 11, 10:28 AM
#4
The best way is to follow this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_of...British_Throne
This is all vested in tradition and history. It must be seen in light of events of the time.
In essence, it is eldest sons, their sons; other sons, their sons; daughters, their sons. When that runs out then the line goes sideways from the currant monarch, to include cousins and nephews. Of course, illegitimacy or being a Roman Catholic (or married to a Roman Catholic) rules one out of the succession.
When Catherine produces a child, the whole 2000 odd all shuffle down to make room.
Regards
Chas
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15th April 11, 10:33 AM
#5
 Originally Posted by Chas
The best way is to follow this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_of...British_Throne
This is all vested in tradition and history. It must be seen in light of events of the time.
In essence, it is eldest sons, their sons; other sons, their sons; daughters, their sons. When that runs out then the line goes sideways from the currant monarch, to include cousins and nephews. Of course, illegitimacy or being a Roman Catholic (or married to a Roman Catholic) rules one out of the succession.
When Catherine produces a child, the whole 2000 odd all shuffle down to make room.
Regards
Chas
That is nuts! Howcome being a Roman Catholic knocks one out of the running? Does it happen to be related to King James?
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[COLOR="DarkGreen"][SIZE="2"]"I consider looseness with words no less of a defect than looseness of the bowels."[/SIZE][/COLOR] [B]- John Calvin[/B]
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15th April 11, 10:47 AM
#6
Please guys religious issues have been raised before and has always derailed the threads.
This thread is there for those who wish to acknowledge and celebrate the birthday of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.
Period.
Many X Markers live in countries where she is either Head of State or Head of the Commonwealth.
It is NOT there for pro and anti monarchy arguments or religious ones or political ones.
So take this as a polite warning to stay on track.
Thanks.
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Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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15th April 11, 12:09 PM
#7
 Originally Posted by McClef
Please guys religious issues have been raised before and has always derailed the threads.
This thread is there for those who wish to acknowledge and celebrate the birthday of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.
Period.
Many X Markers live in countries where she is either Head of State or Head of the Commonwealth.
It is NOT there for pro and anti monarchy arguments or religious ones or political ones.
So take this as a polite warning to stay on track.
Thanks.
I digress too much sometimes, but I hope it's noted I didn't mean to spar anything by asking the question. I am a Biblical Studies major and I love church history and just wondered why it was they came up with that law. Sorry if it was taken in any way offensively to anyone, not my intentions and my apologies for sure! 
Back on topic: How awesome that she is turning 85! Very blessed indeed, both Queen and Country. Long Live!
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[COLOR="DarkGreen"][SIZE="2"]"I consider looseness with words no less of a defect than looseness of the bowels."[/SIZE][/COLOR] [B]- John Calvin[/B]
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15th April 11, 12:11 PM
#8
 Originally Posted by McClef
Please guys religious issues have been raised before and has always derailed the threads.
This thread is there for those who wish to acknowledge and celebrate the birthday of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.
Period.
Many X Markers live in countries where she is either Head of State or Head of the Commonwealth.
It is NOT there for pro and anti monarchy arguments or religious ones or political ones.
So take this as a polite warning to stay on track.
Thanks.
Ohhh also to clarify, when I said "that is nuts" I was referring to the massive shift and everything when Catherine produces an heir. Sorry if that was what was taken overtly definitive. I forget things come across differently online.
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[COLOR="DarkGreen"][SIZE="2"]"I consider looseness with words no less of a defect than looseness of the bowels."[/SIZE][/COLOR] [B]- John Calvin[/B]
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15th April 11, 10:57 AM
#9
 Originally Posted by Burly Brute
That is nuts! Howcome being a Roman Catholic knocks one out of the running? Does it happen to be related to King James?
As I said, this is all historical and must be seen in context. We did cut off a King's head for bringing Catholic troops into the country. Things like this do not happen lightly.
There has been talk for a long time about repealing or modifying the Act of Settlement 1701 and the Royal Marriages Act 1772, but it would require the assent of about 15 countries, which have the Queen as Sovereign.
It is the system we have and it has served us for 310 years. There is very little more that can be said that would not get this thread closed down.
Regards
Chas
e&oe
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15th April 11, 11:00 AM
#10
Sorry Trefor,
You posted while I was still composing.
Regards
Chas
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