What is called music?

[tripleblessed]

"it may well damage our relations to one another".......Chirs

Thanks for seeing my point so clearly and succinctly.

A drum begins to entrain the brains of the hearers within eight seconds, leading one in the direction of the intent of the performers, with the added baggage of their emotional state at the time of performance. What kind of day are/were they having? Are/were pharmaceuticals or alcohol involved? Is that where you want to go? We can fall into it, which may be desired, or we can drive our own bus through that ambiance for a different (better?) experience. Awareness and intent are the keys. Music can create a shared reality, which can be a very good thing. Or not. For many, it's as close as they can get to caring about others, or to the Oneness from which we all spring.
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[Bugbear]

"it may well damage our relations to one another".......Chirs

Thanks for seeing my point so clearly and succinctly.

A drum begins to entrain the brains of the hearers within eight seconds, leading one in the direction of the intent of the performers, with the added baggage of their emotional state at the time of performance. What kind of day are/were they having? Are/were pharmaceuticals or alcohol involved? Is that where you want to go? We can fall into it, which may be desired, or we can drive our own bus through that ambiance for a different (better?) experience. Awareness and intent are the keys. Music can create a shared reality, which can be a very good thing. Or not. For many, it's as close as they can get to caring about others, or to the Oneness from which we all spring.
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When all are one and one is all,
To be a rock and not to roll. -- LZ


I have read Michael Harner's book on modern shamanism, the one with the drum CD; your post reminds me of the book, tripleblessed.

To CMcG, any question like this, in my philosophy of life, begins and ends with this. The world a person knows is being put together in that person's mind or brain; it is a very limmited model of "the real world," not a direct experience of it.

I'm sure there are genetic influences on how one may perceive music, like ear drum issues etc, but the culture one grows up in, the experiences one has very much influence how one perceives the world. Furthermore, people communicate unconsciously quite a bit through body language of sorts, think group dancing and moving to music, and this has effects on the models of the world in our minds. In other words, over time we communicate our perceptions of the world with each other, or in the case of music, our perceptions of the world become synchronized as we are focused on the music all at the same time. That is how I interpret what tripleblessed is discussing.

If you need citations for my supporting sources, I could probably cough them up.