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    As far as what typically goes into most quality Scottish woven tartan, it's wool from Australia and New Zealand.

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    Is it just me, or do the Chinese get blamed for every shortage on the whole planet?

    The "Black Helicopter Tinfoil Helmet" in me believes it's bullcrap used to drive up commodity cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua View Post
    Is it just me, or do the Chinese get blamed for every shortage on the whole planet?

    The "Black Helicopter Tinfoil Helmet" in me believes it's bullcrap used to drive up commodity cost.
    I don't know how much of the "Chinese demand" excuse is true or not, but it is an absolutely huge country with a staggering number of people in it. The more they modernize and start purchasing globally-produced goods, the more pressure it will put on everything. Most people grossly underestimate the potential impact that China has on the global economy. As more and more Chinese join the global marketplace, becoming westernized consumers, we will continue to see wild things happen.

    Question for the experts out there... Why is Scottish wool not suitable for kiltmaking? Is it too coarse or something? Why was it good enough a couple of hundred years ago but not today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobus View Post
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    Question for the experts out there... Why is Scottish wool not suitable for kiltmaking? Is it too coarse or something? Why was it good enough a couple of hundred years ago but not today?
    Sorry, not an expert, but I would say it has to do with pure numbers. We have around 40 million sheep in New Zealand. (Ok, the stats I am quoting below don't say that exactly, but they are from wikipedia, and might be out of date). Anyway, I guess that the UK alone simply wouldn't have enough wool to supply all the tartan, let alone all the other wool products it would like to export. And Tweed is great, but I think that particular wool wouldn't really sell that well to people who want to wear the particular garment directly against the skin, yes, I think it would be scratchy.

    (world sheep populations in millions)

    China 136.4
    Australia 79.0
    India 65.0
    Iran 53.8
    Sudan 51.1
    New Zealand 34.1
    Nigeria 33.9
    United Kingdom 33.1

    Hmmm, anyone else notice something interesting here...

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    Oh, and I'm really not saying anything about the "quality" of the wool here. Of course Harris Tweed is one of the highest quality fabrics available. Just that that particular wool used is not as soft as many other wool types available... I have no idea if thats to do with the way it's processed...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobus View Post

    Question for the experts out there... Why is Scottish wool not suitable for kiltmaking? Is it too coarse or something? Why was it good enough a couple of hundred years ago but not today?


    I am no weaver and I wondered the same thing. The only thing I could think of is that Antipodean wool will contain a proportion(large?) of Marino wool.This type of wool is softer than the Scottish wool I believe and at a pure guess, that is why we, apparently, don't have many kilts, these days, made from Scots wool. I should imagine that Scottish wool would be more suited to be woven into tweed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    I should imagine that Scottish wool would be more suited to be woven into tweed.
    Hooray for tweed, especially Harris!
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    Quote Originally Posted by piperdbh View Post
    Hooray for tweed, especially Harris!
    and on the subject of tweed.... excuse the cross posting
    Harris tweed

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    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    As far as what typically goes into most quality Scottish woven tartan, it's wool from Australia and New Zealand.
    I would have guessed that. And explains why a kilt in NZ is so expensive... and I mean expensive. At least 1000NZD, just about anywhere.

    The wool has to get sent to opposite ends of the earth, twice.

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