One of the problems with traditionalists' comments is that some of us have heard them over and over in other sub forums. It does not matter a whit how much the poster sugarcoats it here, if you've repeatedly made negative comments about modern kilt styles "they're not kilts", modes or wear, or materials in other subs we know what you "really mean" because you've already said it clearly. And it's galling to come "here" and hear it. If it's not your Traditional then go find it elsewhere. Just from the name of the sub you knew what was here and the context of the discussion. To "innocently" comment that such and such isn't traditional doesn't make much sense, and is no different than the person on the real world repeating negative comments, "no offense, just my opinion". At this point we know where you stand, just keep it to yourself, you're definately part of the problem.