And they call themselves men ...

[Kilted KT]

That reminds me of a newspaper article that I read a while back. Apparently a study was done, and they discovered that people respond negatively to other people doing things that aren't their job. Like bending over and picking up a piece of trash to throw it out. If you don't work for the city, people don't like you doing it.

Good deeds are generally seen as bad things.

that would be old Union job mindset kicking in. You really want to see someone pissed off? Go someplace that is unionized and start doing work that wasn't assigned to you. All kinds of hell gets started.

[Schultz]

My sister, a manager at UPS, moved a broom out of the way, and got written up by the union.

My father, who was once a union man, nearly had a heart attack when he was told about that.

[Mattg]

My sister, a manager at UPS, moved a broom out of the way, and got written up by the union.

My father, who was once a union man, nearly had a heart attack when he was told about that.

Why the heck did they write her up?

[Kilted KT]

Why the heck did they write her up?

because union people are paid insane amounts of money to do their job. If someone else does their job, they may loose theirs. So they get extremely unhappy when someone else does their job, for which they are paid far far far too much.

[Schultz]

Why the heck did they write her up?

What Kilted KT said. It wasn't her job to move the broom. She should've found a union person to do it, who would've then told her that it wasn't his job to do it and she should ask their foreman to find someone to move it, even though it was a safety hazard.

It seems ridiculous and it is, but it's the way real strict union shops work. My father said that his great uncle didn't almost get killed at the Homestead Strike in 1892 so some *&(#*@$$ could write his daughter up for moving a broom.

[Iolaus]

That reminds me of a newspaper article that I read a while back. Apparently a study was done, and they discovered that people respond negatively to other people doing things that aren't their job. Like bending over and picking up a piece of trash to throw it out. If you don't work for the city, people don't like you doing it.

Good deeds are generally seen as bad things.

I think it's because they feel guilty that they're not doing it; it makes them uncomfortable to think that somebody else is doing the right thing when they wouldn't.

[The Supreme Canuck]

Quite possible. And, again, it shouldn't stop us. Who cares what others think?

[Kilted KT]

Quite possible. And, again, it shouldn't stop us. Who cares what others think?

far too many people.....

someone has to keep up with the Jones's.

[GlassMan]

My sister, a manager at UPS, moved a broom out of the way, and got written up by the union.

My father, who was once a union man, nearly had a heart attack when he was told about that.

In my Nopadon's old police department the Officials (those with a rank of Lieutenant or higher) are not allowed to be union members and are considered management. As such, even though they are sworn police officers, the union contract states that they are not to exercise their police powers and are to instead call for a union member to come act. It's silly. The stewards actually filed a grievance once because a Captain apprehended a crook when he saw the crime in progress (armed robbery). According to the shop steward the Captain should have just watched the crime and keep an eye on the suspect while he waited for back-up, instead of saving the day and performing his duty under the law to act.

Needless to say, the arbitrator ruled that since there is a legal duty under the law for a sworn officer to act if a crime is occuring in his/her presnce the Captain acted correctly. However, he also noted that if the Captain had been out patroling and actively looking for criminal activity, instead of just happening to be in the right place and the right time, then he would have been in the wrong.

Go figure. I'm a union member myself (from my Fire Department days) and my Nopadon is a union member, but sometimes sanity is lost by the shop stewards.

[Kilted KT]

I don't want to break up the discussion here, but wouldn't it be best is we continued this over in off-topic? I am very interested in this conversation...but don't want to hijack the thread...