And they call themselves men ...

**Derek** · 12th April 06, 03:24 AM

I went shopping down the town yesterday (cilted and looking for black boots). In fact I'm going back down there now to pick some up. Will post another piccy shortly. Anyhow back to yesterday .. when I got on the bus to come home it was full, bar for an odd seat half way down the bus which I took. At the next stop two retired ladies got on loaded with all their shopping. There were many guys of all ages sat nearer the front of the bus and none got up to offer a seat. I duly got up, went down and told one of the ladies to have my seat half way back down the bus. She thanked me ever so much and went to the seat. Now I'm stood next to the remaining lady and she says to me 'look at at em all sitting there, and they call themselves men'. Still no one got up to offer this lady a seat. We then proceeded to have a nice little chat. The bus remained full and she was going further than me and when I got off she was still standing. Cilted or not .. I just don't understand where manners have gone.
Iechyd Da

Derek

**cessna152towser** · 12th April 06, 03:46 AM

In these days of equality, one might no longer offer to give up a seat for a young lady but I would always offer a seat to an elderly or disabled person, regardless of sex. My wife is disabled and I recall being in the busy self service restaurant at Falkirk Wheel a couple of years ago trying to maneouvre my wife and a tray of food while looking for a seat. There were about four tables each with one person on them, all of whom took objection to my wife sitting down, claiming they were keeping all the seats for people further back in the servery queue. It took a lot of tact not to tell them just how selfish they were. Some of these people need to have a spell of temporary incapacity to teach them a lesson. Rant over for today.

**Pour1Malt** · 12th April 06, 03:54 AM

common decency is a' but lost....

same gae's fur people spittin' gum oot on the sidewak....

**SouthernScot** · 12th April 06, 04:04 AM

Chivalry might be a thing of the past these days, but it's not dead in all of us. I'll still go out of my way to give up a seat, or open a door, or carry something.... maybe it's just because of the way I was raised.

**Mr. Kilt** · 12th April 06, 04:35 AM

Sadly I see that happen on a daily basis. I drive a transit bus for the city and I've had to "suggest" to people that it might be nice to give up their seats for an elderly or disabled person. Half the time they look at me like I have two heads.

**JackK** · 12th April 06, 04:39 AM

Having grown up in a more chivalrous time it never occurs to me to NOT open doors, giving up my seat to women or just using good manners. Sadly it is a sign of the times I suppose - equal rights, equal pay - no more chivalry.

Jack

**davedove** · 12th April 06, 04:52 AM

I'm afraid for a lot of people is pure selfishness. Their unconscious thought (and maybe conscious) is "What benefit would I get from offering my seat to someone?" And their thinking is so short term they don't even consider that they may one day be in the other person's situation.

**Richland** · 12th April 06, 05:25 AM

It is not dead. Men such as we carry the torch. I was raised to give up my seat, hold the door, etc. and it brings me pleasure to do it. It does make me mad to see other men not be that way, but it makes me feel better than them when i do. All my friends behave this way to
So I say to all you kilted men: Be courtious, and gentlemanly, and chivalrous when kilted. So maybe in a small way, women will recognise the kilt as a symbol of good manners, respect, courtesy, and strength. Just my thought.

**ckelly327** · 12th April 06, 06:42 AM

Being in my early 40's I'm never sure which generation I fit into but I was raised to be polite. Always hold the door, offer a seat to a lady and say Thank You and Please as much as possible. There's no harm in doing any of that, kilted or not. I guess to me it's all just a part of being civil to the people around me. So, thank you for giving up your seat - it's a gentlemen's thing to do.

**Pour1Malt** · 12th April 06, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by JackK

Having grown up in a more chivalrous time it never occurs to me to NOT open doors, giving up my seat to women or just using good manners. Sadly it is a sign of the times I suppose - equal rights, equal pay - no more chivalry.

Jack

ai dinnae buy that "equal rights means open yur ain door" bunk....

ALL people deserve equal rights

an a' people also deserve to bae treat'd w' guid manners...

Richland is richt!!!

kilties need tae set a guid example...