Identity in the Scottish Diaspora

[Wareyin]

Precisely. At least we can agree on that.

Wonderful! Now, a quick look at the original poster's profile tells me he is an American residing in North Carolina, so I think it quite clear that his use of the term was in the American sense. Hopefully this dispels the confusion!

[neloon]

Wonderful! Now, a quick look at the original poster's profile tells me he is an American residing in North Carolina, so I think it quite clear that his use of the term was in the American sense. Hopefully this dispels the confusion!

Yes, we can see that NOW. But you also need to see that most of the rest of the world uses our sense
However, you are in the vast, vast majority on this site so you may be right.... here.
By the way, what does "American" mean?

Alan

[Jock Scot]

Wonderful! Now, a quick look at the original poster's profile tells me he is an American residing in North Carolina, so I think it quite clear that his use of the term was in the American sense. Hopefully this dispels the confusion!

Not one bit I fear. In my book he is an American.

[The Q]

Earlier there was a reference to Lord Lyon and his comments about the Diaspora and Scots abroad (his words, not mine) and Alan maintains that the lineage aspect associated with that kind of position is anathema to most Scots.

Yet the majority of Scots voted for the status quo and all that it entails...voluntarily decided to be subjects of the Crown.

I don't see that you have a valid argument there.

You have missed the point of the argument
Alan stated Scotland had been a single entity since 843

It has NOT due to the dates shown, if part was not annexed to the crown in those days it was not part of Scotland, the crown was Scotland .
Note also the crown was King of the Scots, not the Gaels, not the Shetlands. Even today there are Shetlanders and Gael who will quite vehemently state they are not Scots

[davidlpope]

By the way, what does "American" mean?

The only thing it means is that one is legally a citizen. Nothing else.

[Wareyin]

Not one bit I fear. In my book he is an American.

Yes, he is "an American." He is not "a Scot", nor did he ask if he was. He asked if he was "Scottish", by which Americans mean "of Scottish ancestry".

[davidlpope]

Not one bit I fear. In my book he is an American.

...of Scottish ancestry!

Does that terminology/clarification help things for all?

[Reiver]

You have missed the point of the argument
Alan stated Scotland had been a single entity since 843

It has NOT due to the dates shown, if part was not annexed to the crown in those days it was not part of Scotland, the crown was Scotland .
Note also the crown was King of the Scots, not the Gaels, not the Shetlands. Even today there are Shetlanders and Gael who will quite vehemently state they are not Scots

Well, whomever they are they take great pains to export 'Scotishness' thru varied and sundry economic enterprises supported by Govt. travel and economic departments....and have so for numerous decades.
They've specifically targeted the diaspora in this endeavor to no end.....and do so thru the internet, magazines, TV programs and all/any other means available.
Then some folks accuse us of attempting to steal the Haggis off their own very private plates.
That's a bit of inconsistency to aye?

So, when you do finally control your own Govt., as Alan says you are moving towards, I expect to see all of this exporting kilts/Clan goods and services to come to a screeching halt as most Scots find it to be thievery, or so we are told.

If you do so I'll support your position totally......if not, you are speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

[neloon]

The only thing it means is that one is legally a citizen. Nothing else.

Of where?

Alan

[davidlpope]

Of where?

Alan

The United States of America.