Jewish Tartan

[macwilkin]

Since Glasgow was/is home to many Jewish immigrants, especially in the Gorbals area of the city, I would recommend the Glasgow district tartan.

Regards,

Todd

[James MacMillan]

I've resisted posting a particular comment to this thread, because I don't want to steer the thread in another direction that might get me in trouble with the MODS.

But since when has a person’s religion had anything to do with national origin?

Why is it assumed that you can’t be Jewish AND Scottish?

I say this because I have two Jewish friends; one a MacDermit and another a MacTavish.

[Mr. MacDougall]

As already mentioned, there's an older thread in which this was discussed at some length. I believe IE Scotsman went so far as to actually design a tartan, but I don't think he got as far as registering it.

[Galician]

Thanks, Todd.

Can anyone tell if they are wearing the same tartan?

[Ozman1944]

Blue & white would make a great Jewish tartan; It's the colours of the Israeli flag, as well as the Tallis (Prayer Shawl); Maybe a touch of gold (for the Menorah)?

[kiltedsawyer]

It is indeed hard to make out the tartan in the B&W photograph. The MacLarens have long had a tie to scouting, but it doesn't look like the tartan. My father was an honorary member of Clan MacLaren (because of his scouting experience,) before he ever knew of the geneology.
Respectfully,
David

[gilmore]

At the same site I found this: http://www.theglasgowstory.com/image...%26search%3D99

(sorry, I don't know how to put the photo here)

The caption and accompanying text is:

"The Jewish Lads' Brigade Band in the 1930s.

The Jewish Lads' Brigade (JLB) was formed in 1895 in London. The first Glasgow branch was established in 1903 and was particularly active in the Gorbals. By June 1904 there were 125 members and an increasing membership mean that there were soon three groups in operation. The JLB had the same discipline as other youth organisations such as the Boys' Brigade and its members were trained in rifle drill, foot drill, map reading, Morse code and so on. There were also summer camps which enabled the boys to have a holiday away from the city.

One major difference between the JLB and other youth groups was the intention that JLB membership would help the children of immigrants integrate themselves into their new surroundings and learn to be good citizens. Accordingly the Glasgow JLB adopted a number of Scottish traditions including establishing what was claimed to be the world's only all-Jewish pipe band.

Reference: PHO.J.0001

Reproduced with the permission of the Scottish Jewish Archives Centre "

I can't tell what the tartan is in the black and white photo, or even if the kilts are tartan. They are dark.

[Daaaaang]

Blue & white would make a great Jewish tartan; It's the colours of the Israeli flag, as well as the Tallis (Prayer Shawl); Maybe a touch of gold (for the Menorah)?

It sounds like the XMarks tartan would make a perfect Jewish tartan!

[Sardious]

I have a Jewish friend in Missouri and he wears some kilt from something on his grandmothers side. Some relation. But there are kilts that are not traditional and have a design. Like a red kilt with a white maple leaf. Why not a white type kilt with a blue star of david on it. and in the back pleat it right to get a star on the back in the pleats. I'm sure it is plausable if someone wanted it

[gilmore]

I have a Jewish friend in Missouri and he wears some kilt from something on his grandmothers side. Some relation. But there are kilts that are not traditional and have a design. Like a red kilt with a white maple leaf. Why not a white type kilt with a blue star of david on it. and in the back pleat it right to get a star on the back in the pleats. I'm sure it is plausable if someone wanted it

I am guessing you don't have much experience with kilts with a lot of white or light colors in them. They get dirty much more easily (well, it shows more readily) than darker kilts, requiring cleaning and all the expense and trouble (sometimes basting the pleats and pressing them) that goes with that.

The diagonal lines of a pleated mogen david would necessitate running the fabric through a loom twice, as do those of a pleated saltire, making it an expensive proposition, even if enough buyers could be found to make the cost anywhere close to realistic.