Rosettes instead of Kilt Pins?

[macwilkin]

I also found there is some military significance to the traditional use of rosettes with kilts...rank or something. I'm sure our board experts can fill us all in.

See the article above Ron from the Calagary Highlanders' web site.

T.

[puffer]

See the article above Ron from the Calagary Highlanders' web site.

T.

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NOTE - The "style of Rosettes & the placement differ.

Here is one that is on sale ( EBAY) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=110396721904

Here are rosettes being offered by Can.BW - http://www.blackwatchkitshop.com/sho...roducts_id=109

BTW, the "Grade" of the kilt for officer's & Sr. NCO's is "different"., As is the WT.

Puffer

[Galician]

At some recent Games I attened, there was a pipe band which uses the rosette in place of a kilt pin. Theirs is a memorial to the founder of the band, black with his name in gold lettering. It seemed to me more an extension of mourning practices of the 19th century, though, than military.

[macwilkin]

At some recent Games I attened, there was a pipe band which uses the rosette in place of a kilt pin. Theirs is a memorial to the founder of the band, black with his name in gold lettering. It seemed to me more an extension of mourning practices of the 19th century, though, than military.

In that particular instance I would agree, but in general, the rosette is generally found as part of a military uniform -- again, please see the following link:

http://www.calgaryhighlanders.com/tr.../kiltpanel.htm

Another reference from the New South Wales Scottish Regimental Association (NSW Scottish is an Australian Scottish unit):

Kilt Rosettes should be worn by members previously holding the rank of commissioned officers, warrant officers and sergeants only.

http://www.nswscottish.org.au/dress.html

Regards,

Todd

[beloitpiper]

I've always known rosettes as being something of an award or medal. You can see here how it is part of the uniform for the Royal Regiment of Scotland

[Friday]

I was thinking that it might end some of the confusion about whats under the kilt. If you worn a blue rosette and ribbon as least the quality of whats under the kilt would be evidenced.

[Nervous Jock]

I believe, and I could be wrong, the rosettes are of military origin. I think they were worn by NCOs and officers. But there is also a pannel worn on the pleats behind the rosettes.
I don't know if these are still worn by the RHR. A search for previous threads would probably result in better information.

Here is a thread with more info.

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/k...light=rosettes

I would just reinforce this, they are worn by Officers and SNCOS in SCOTS.

From a practicallity point of view they are a pain to clean once stained and, at least with the ones I have experience of are only a decoration not used to tie the front and back of the kilt apron together

[Stratherrick]

"Shouders back, chest out!"

What a fine figure of a man in that photo!

Slainte

Bruce

[xena]

Kilt Rosettes should be worn by members previously holding the rank of commissioned officers, warrant officers and sergeants only.

http://www.nswscottish.org.au/dress.html

But, with all due respect, those are dress instructions of a regimental association for those turning out for parade. It should not be taken as a restriction on what a civilian may or may not wear.

For example, in my former regiment, sgian dubh's were limited to Sergeants and up. Master Corporals, Corporals, Privates and Officer Cadets weren't allowed to wear them. That does not translate into a reason that a civilian can't wear one.

Even though we didn't have rosettes in our order of dress, it does seem like they'd be rather difficult to clean. Might be a good idea to steer clear of that headache in the first place.

Just my two kopecks.

[macwilkin]

But, with all due respect, those are dress instructions of a regimental association for those turning out for parade. It should not be taken as a restriction on what a civilian may or may not wear.

For example, in my former regiment, sgian dubh's were limited to Sergeants and up. Master Corporals, Corporals, Privates and Officer Cadets weren't allowed to wear them. That does not translate into a reason that a civilian can't wear one.

Even though we didn't have rosettes in our order of dress, it does seem like they'd be rather difficult to clean. Might be a good idea to steer clear of that headache in the first place.

Just my two kopecks.

Quite right -- I suppose it would be up to the individual as to whether they would choose to wear them, given their association with military dress, much as a civilian might choose to wear a regimental tie that they had no association with -- while there's nothing in Queen's Regulations to prohibit it, to a former member of said regiment, it would certainly be bad form and might result in a verbal (or even other) thrashing.

To support your post, the pipe band that my clan society supports wears rosettes as kilt pins, and they are a civilian pipe band.

T.