Sheriffmuir tie options

[mull]

Not intending to drift off topic, but...
Robert, you have the most magnificant wardrobe! Beautiful clothes and always worn so well.
Thank you for posting the pics.
Joe

[Phil]

Not intending to drift off topic, but...
Robert, you have the most magnificant wardrobe! Beautiful clothes and always worn so well.
Thank you for posting the pics.
Joe

I had thought to say what else would you expect when he is married to an accomplished seamstress - but then the Scots saying about the "cobbler's bairns" came to mind....

[M. A. C. Newsome]

To answer just such a question, I put together this little collage showing how different neckwear looks with a Sheriffmuir doublet.

From upper left, going clockwise:
Necktie, solid waistcoat
Necktie, tartan waistcoat
Bowtie, solid waistcoat
Cravat, solid waistcoat
Cravat, tartan waistcoat
Lace Jabot, tartan waistcoat
No neckwear, tartan waistcoat
No neckwear, plain waistcoat

I included those last two just to give a basis for comparion. I don't think I'd ever wear the Sheriffmuir without some kind of neckwear. Of the above, the option I like the least is the bow tie, though that could very well be because I don't like that particular bowtie. This image from Highland Clans shows a velvet sheriffmuir worn with a bow tie that I like the look of much better.


Of course, the classic look is the lace jabot, but if one wanted something more understated, I certainly think the cravat looks nice. I'm actually surprised at how nice the plain neck tie looks, but it certainly dresses it down. I'd recommend it only if one wanted to make the doublet somewhat less formal.

[Paul]

Matt, that was extremely helpful. What would we do without you?!
I'm also planning to wear my tartan waistcoat so it's a bonus that you were wearing one in that set of pics.

[Phil]

Here's a couple more options to add to Matt's helpful list -

with a bow tie



and a bit more casual -



I notice that modern-style sheriffmuirs have buttons all the way up whereas my older style anly has a couple each side. Must be becausr the top would be covered by a jabot.

[Kiltman]

Thanks Matt. I didn't know there were so many ways of wearing it. Since I have one this was very helpful.

[KenB]

I'm curious... is it acceptable to wear another style of neck wear, similar to that shown in a number of posted photos, other than a jabon with either the Kenmore or Montrose doublet?
I like the Kenmore but I'm not a fan of the jabon and cuff.

[MacLowlife]

Welcome KenB,

If one is willing to unbutton the Kenmore a little bit, or if the neckspace is generous, one might sneak in a bow tie ( as I have done with a similar collar in my profile picture) or you might even be able to wear it with no tie at all if the neckspace is close- like a uniform tunic that closes with a hook and eye. However, without resorting to one of these tricks, the only other way to avoid wearing a jabot would be a clerical collar.

You might want to look at a thread started by Teufel Hunden about a month ago that discussed similar ideas for the Montrose.

You might also consider the doublets offered by our friend NorCal Piper as the SKYEMUIR and the LOWLANDER, both of which close at the neck with no tie or neckwear.

www.skyehighlandoutfitters.com/Kilt_Jackets.html

[KenB]

Thank you for your response to my question about jabon and cuffs.
I checked the website you attached and I really like what I saw. It really clarifies things and offers many options.

[creagdhubh]

Hi guys. I've got a really nice sheriffmuir doublet and I'm planning to wear it at the upcoming Ferintosh Burns Supper.
I've tried to look into detail on what, other than a lace jabotm can be worn with such a jacket. I have found several websites that contradict each other on whether a Highland cravat or bow-tie can be worn with it.

I'm thinking of the Highland cravat (note: not a ruche/scrunchy tie) option, as the cravat is tied rather plainly and left quite flat, however I'm not sure if there are any other options to this? I normally like to be quite experimental and contemporary with Highland wear, however I feel this is one jacket that requires a bit more of a traditional setting around it. I basically think a lace jabot can look pretty good, but I'm not up for wearing one at the moment.

What do you guys think would be acceptable with the sheriffmuir doublet?

I would only wear the lace jabot and cuffs with the sherriffmuir doublet-as I have one too and that is the only neckwear I wear with it. I typically wear it with only a tartan cut on the bias waistcoat to match my kilt, with 5 silver, celtic buttons. Of course sometimes I wear it will a scarlet, black, or white, waistcoat with the same silver style buttons, but I would never wear it with a normal formal shirt and bow-tie, or a necktie. I just don't think the high collar of the doublet sets those kinds of ties off well at all. My opinion of course.