Silver versus cloth buttons

**Arlen** · 17th June 10, 10:09 AM

I agree that cloth buttons are incredibly rare. I have only seen them twice (in all my long 27 years of life

) and both times they were sported by clan chiefs during a daywear event.

That's not to say there's anything wrong with it, but it's definitely unusual and I think some people would be inclined to associate cloth covered buttons with cheat rental outfits.

**D.A. Guertin** · 17th June 10, 01:28 PM

This is true... I was thinking only of silver and gold, but there are photos floating around here somewhere of a Duke or an Earl wearing a doublet with copper buttons in the shape of salmon...

**JSFMACLJR** · 17th June 10, 02:45 PM

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**JSFMACLJR** · 17th June 10, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by D.A. Guertin

This is true... I was thinking only of silver and gold, but there are photos floating around here somewhere of a Duke or an Earl wearing a doublet with copper buttons in the shape of salmon...

Hmm, there are photos out and about of a duke and a baronet wearing doublets with silver salmon buttons. I haven't seen any pics of the said peer and the said baronet with copper buttons.

**creagdhubh** · 20th June 10, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR

Hmm, there are photos out and about of a duke and a baronet wearing doublets with silver salmon buttons. I haven't seen any pics of the said peer and the said baronet with copper buttons.

Hmmm, I wonder who those fine gentlemen could be? I absolutely love their doublets by the way! Do you think my Chief, the honorable Sir William Alan Macpherson of Cluny and Blairgowrie, TD would be opposed to me having buttons on my evening doublet made up of silver Scottish wildcats? Perhaps I should ask him myself in October?! I was being extremely sarcastic

; on a more serious note however: as long as the wildcat buttons are indeed in the same form of my own personal crest (and not Cluny's or no one elses for that matter), since I am an Armiger registered within the Lyon Court, then indeed I would be correct-I have seen this topic being addressed in another area on XMTS.

Aye,

**JSFMACLJR** · 21st June 10, 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by creagdhubh

Hmmm, I wonder who those fine gentlemen could be? I absolutely love their doublets by the way! Do you think my Chief, the honorable Sir William Alan Macpherson of Cluny and Blairgowrie, TD would be opposed to me having buttons on my evening doublet made up of silver Scottish wildcats? Perhaps I should ask him myself in October?! I was being extremely sarcastic

; on a more serious note however: as long as the wildcat buttons are indeed in the same form of my own personal crest (and not Cluny's or no one elses for that matter), since I am an Armiger registered within the Lyon Court, then indeed I would be correct-I have seen this topic being addressed in another area on XMTS.

Aye,

Kyle, I think wildcat buttons would be a splendid use of heraldry. You could go all out and have actual wildcat buttons, a la Argyll and Duart's salmon, or do as I did, and have my crest added to round buttons:

I chose this route because of the risk of the beaver's Lochaber axe snagging on my dancing partners frocks!

**creagdhubh** · 21st June 10, 05:36 PM

Wonderful! Thanks for the advice Sandy and I absolutely love your buttons by the way! I am seriously thinking about having custom buttons made, yet I must order my bespoke velvet doublet first. I currently wear a bespoke, barathea Regulation Doublet for evening dress, and do not wish to alter the buttons-as I like to keep that style of doublet as understated and simple as possible-though I do wear a tartan or scarlet waistcoat with it for various formal occasions. Good thinking with regards to the Lochaber axe!

**D.A. Guertin** · 18th June 10, 07:20 AM

Very well could be one in the same; I don't recall.

**Cygnus** · 1st July 10, 11:32 AM

On a related note...

I have a white Marcella waistcoat and it has cloth-covered buttons. If I were to repurpose this waistcoat for use with highland attire, would it be appropriate to replace the buttons so they match my jacket?

**JSFMACLJR** · 1st July 10, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Cygnus

On a related note...

I have a white Marcella waistcoat and it has cloth-covered buttons. If I were to repurpose this waistcoat for use with highland attire, would it be appropriate to replace the buttons so they match my jacket?

It sure would! You could also keep the cloth covered buttons, if you like. I have mother-of-pearl waistcoat buttons that I have been known to use with my white waistcoat I wear with the kilt.