Favorite Contemporary, Non-Traditional Apron Style?

[Damocles]

good idea i like the ragular kilt to and i ware them often but i live in Nv and that much wool is hot i mite try a wide on after i finish this one im working on now

[Pleater]

When making my DPM (Camo) kilt I built in a hefty piece of webbing at the waist, sewing the back of the waistband onto it, folding it down and sewing along the very top of the pleats to hold everything together.

It created a very stable waistline, preventing the sagging at centre back which usually happened with my kilts before I began to put in a centre back belt loop.

When using non traditional materials I make the right edge of the apron straight - I think that military kilts are made that way. It does mean that the under apron is showing for a couple of inches - but it is perfectly good material.

Anne the Pleater :ootd:

[Damocles]

When making my DPM (Camo) kilt I built in a hefty piece of webbing at the waist, sewing the back of the waistband onto it, folding it down and sewing along the very top of the pleats to hold everything together.

It created a very stable waistline, preventing the sagging at centre back which usually happened with my kilts before I began to put in a centre back belt loop.

When using non traditional materials I make the right edge of the apron straight - I think that military kilts are made that way. It does mean that the under apron is showing for a couple of inches - but it is perfectly good material.

Anne the Pleater :ootd:

thats a wonderful idea. i use hair canvas even in my Contemp kilts. i know the idea is to get away from the wait and stiffness of the traditional kilt but the Cotton twill i use stretches over time. i find that kits with out internal reinforcements just go wonky after a few warings. im going to try your webbing idea on a desert hiking kilt i am making
Paul

[Riverkilt]

So, has anyone purchased one of the new style Utilikilts with the two new apron styles - or should I say "lack of" apron? Difficult to tell what they looklike on the website.

[Damocles]

No i only ware my own stuff. i think his kilts look interesting but it bothers me that his stuff always looks so disheveled and unkempt

[werewolves]

I actually prefer a narrower apron. I have several contemporary and traditional kilts, and I find that for my body type the narrower front apron just works better.

One of these days I'll have to get someone to make me a 16 oz box pleat kilt with a narrow front apron (maybe 13"), but traditionally built in every other way. *cough* Newsome *cough* ;)

So, has anyone purchased one of the new style Utilikilts with the two new apron styles - or should I say "lack of" apron? Difficult to tell what they looklike on the website.

Too narrow, even for me. And I don't like the "codpiece" thing they have going either.

[Damocles]

I actually prefer a narrower apron. I have several contemporary and traditional kilts, and I find that for my body type the narrower front apron just works better.

One of these days I'll have to get someone to make me a 16 oz box pleat kilt with a narrow front apron (maybe 13"), but traditionally built in every other way. *cough* Newsome *cough* ;)



Too narrow, even for me. And I don't like the "codpiece" thing they have going either.

Codpiece ! hmmm after having seen him on sevreal shows all not comment on what i think thats about LOL

[Bugbear]

Talking about contemporary, non-traditional box pleats.

Not sure it would be any good, but I've been pondering what having a box pleat down the center of a wide apron might be like. The apron would be divided in half with the apron edges ending over on the side of the legs, and the box pleat might have a bit of a fell. The two halves of the apron would, of course, be very much wider than the pleats of the kilt.

The kilt might have two inch or so box pleats around the back, or perhaps RK pleats. And I suppose the under apron would need to be narrow enough to only sit on one side of the apron. I can think of a few other configurations that might work.

Just getting it out of my head; might not make sense...

[Damocles]

Talking about contemporary, non-traditional box pleats.

Not sure it would be any good, but I've been pondering what having a box pleat down the center of a wide apron might be like. The apron would be divided in half with the apron edges ending over on the side of the legs, and the box pleat might have a bit of a fell. The two halves of the apron would, of course, be very much wider than the pleats of the kilt.

The kilt might have two inch or so box pleats around the back, or perhaps RK pleats. And I suppose the under apron would need to be narrow enough to only sit on one side of the apron. I can think of a few other configurations that might work.

Just getting it out of my head; might not make sense...

go for it id like to see it. kinda reminds me of some of the Egyptian toonics they have a central pleat and a kind of gathering up along that pleat not really the same but similar

[Bugbear]

Ok, I made a makeshift model of that apron I described with safety pins holding it all together. As far as I can tell, the box pleat does do what I was hoping. When I sit, the back part of the box falls down between my legs and wraps around the sides of my legs a little. The bottom of the fell, which is the last safety pin about where my legs meet, keeps everything together at that point, so it behaves a little bit as if I were wearing a pair of shorts. When I stand back up, the pleat closes, perhaps, in part, because of the fell pin.

The inside folds of the box pleat might dent through the front of the apron above the fell with a heavier fabric, and the edges would need to be stitched in. I am using a lighter-than-canvas length of cotton fabric, so things might behave differently with heavy canvas or some other material. I'm guessing the pleat will work somewhat the same , or with edge stitching, even better.

I am only playing with ideas, not intending to make a kilt: I don't have those skills.

* And I should add that I put a safety pin in each edge of the pleats at the very bottom to hold the crease just a little. It would be better with edge stitching.