Hats

[MacKenzie]

Outback makes a panama-style hat that won't break the bank.

https://www.outbacktrading.com/produ...essa-straw-hat

[Jock Scot]

You're the reason a panama hat is on my wish list. :-)

For now, I'm wearing this. I'd like a fore and aft, but I'm concerned that the brim on the sides is rather small.
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Yes the side brims on a fore and aft are not as wide as a panama and don’t forget there are several styles of panama, nevertheless the brim of the fore and aft(F&A?) have never let me down and remember when worn fishing there is the added complication of reflected light from the water. I find pulling the F&A well down does add to the efficiency of the brim.

[Troglodyte]

Thats great! However, be aware there is another style that looks similar, but with flaps on. Often called a "Sherlock Holmes", I and others would call it a "Deer Stalker". You need to be aware of this, as the THREE names are often ,rather confusingly, mixed up depending on who is selling them. Both styles are good and the flaps do have their practical uses in wet and windy conditions found out on the hill, river, or loch, although perhaps they look a tad theatrical. Both styles are a common sight in the more rural areas and particularly amongst those that partake in country sports.

BE WARNED!

Make certain sure that you are buying the bonnet that you think you are buying! It is very, VERY easy to end up talking at cross purposes with the vendor. Pitfalls are present to trip up the unwary. Genuine and honest mistakes are lurking, due to this shambles of labelling.

The flapped sort I have always known as a deer-stalker (although Sherlock Holmes only ever wore a '...flapped travelling-cap...' according to Dr Watson), and the fore-and-aft as just that, or as a ghillie-cap - which is what I generally call it. The great thing about the style is that they can be folded flat, peak-to-peak, and stuffed in a bag or pocket very conveniently.

My father used to refer to his tweed bucket-hat as a 'Paddy-hat' for reasons he never explained to me.

The trouble is there is no set name for any of the hat styles, although generic terms like 'county cap' are usually unterstood by everyone to mean a tweed flat-cap.

You're dead right, Jock, urging caution when buying hats online - as each retailer has their own set of terminology. The eight-section cap is a good example, being known variously as a 'newsboy', 'bakerboy', 'Gatsby' and I have even heard it called a 'pudding'.

What I object to is the insistence by the wearer to curl the peak (you now see it done on classic flat-caps) into some sort of arch, and have it pulled down over their eyes. This tells me what the wearer has been watching on telly, and thinks gives them an authentic 'countryman' appearance, but it seems to be a baseball-cap thing that is done with the tweed baseball-caps retailers.

You can always spot a 'fashion tweed' sportsman in his choice of tweeds and style of wearing. You occasionally see an old boy with his cap shaped by years of use, pulled tight on his his head, and curiously off centre and to one side. I wonder how many seasons the fashion tweeds last...

[Jock Scot]

The flapped sort I have always known as a deer-stalker (although Sherlock Holmes only ever wore a '...flapped travelling-cap...' according to Dr Watson), and the fore-and-aft as just that, or as a ghillie-cap - which is what I generally call it. The great thing about the style is that they can be folded flat, peak-to-peak, and stuffed in a bag or pocket very conveniently.

My father used to refer to his tweed bucket-hat as a 'Paddy-hat' for reasons he never explained to me.

The trouble is there is no set name for any of the hat styles, although generic terms like 'county cap' are usually unterstood by everyone to mean a tweed flat-cap.

You're dead right, Jock, urging caution when buying hats online - as each retailer has their own set of terminology. The eight-section cap is a good example, being known variously as a 'newsboy', 'bakerboy', 'Gatsby' and I have even heard it called a 'pudding'.

What I object to is the insistence by the wearer to curl the peak (you now see it done on classic flat-caps) into some sort of arch, and have it pulled down over their eyes. This tells me what the wearer has been watching on telly, and thinks gives them an authentic 'countryman' appearance, but it seems to be a baseball-cap thing that is done with the tweed baseball-caps retailers.

You can always spot a 'fashion tweed' sportsman in his choice of tweeds and style of wearing. You occasionally see an old boy with his cap shaped by years of use, pulled tight on his his head, and curiously off centre and to one side. I wonder how many seasons the fashion tweeds last...

We are fellow thinkers here and particularly on that dreadful modern idea of "curving" the cap brim. "Paddy Hat"!My father also used that description for those "bucket" hats! It sounds like it might have been a generational thing?

[MacKenzie]

The trouble is there is no set name for any of the hat styles...

Indeed. Search "fore and aft hat" and you get a lot of this.

[jsrnephdoc]

Indeed. Search "fore and aft hat" and you get a lot of this.

It's obvious it's an apt descriptor, but I can't imagine ever seeing "a lot" of it

[Jock Scot]

Indeed. Search "fore and aft hat" and you get a lot of this.

:lol
I think that most people who have logged onto a kilt website would have a fair idea that the bonnet you have illustrated above would probably have a fair chance that that pattern was not the one that was being talked about!

[Kitfoxdave]

You're the reason a panama hat is on my wish list. :-)

For now, I'm wearing this. I'd like a fore and aft, but I'm concerned that the brim on the sides is rather small.
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A wide brimmed hat is definitely a good choice! Having basal cell scraped of the upper ears and scalp is NOT an experience I would recommend!!!

[RGM1]

I decided to add a glengarry to my collection and was curious whether it was practical. Wore it on two days hiking the Gettysburg battlefield and camping. Quite cold and windy with substantial wind gusts. It did a wonderful job of keeping my head warm, though no protection from sun glare. After a while, I stopped noticing it on my head. It was just there.
Made a day trip to USA kilts to get properly sized which I think was a key factor in it being properly sized.
I suspect it may see more use than I was expecting. I like hats and it serves quite well in that regard.

[User]

A wide brimmed hat is definitely a good choice! Having basal cell scraped of the upper ears and scalp is NOT an experience I would recommend!!!

It's probably too late for me. My father and grandfather both had ear surgeries to remove cancer, and I received plenty of burns before I became forward thinking enough to realize the long term effects my poor decision making would have. But who knows. Maybe I'll get lucky, and with care from here on I'll avoid the same fate.

If nothing else, I'm doing my best to educate my kids in the hopes that they'll be spared.