US Campaign Ribbons

**KiltedCoastie** · 29th July 09, 09:03 PM

I think you're trying to be too damned legal hear. I have 27 years of service, active duty O-5 in the USCG and have worn my dinner dress with kilt to seven functions: Navy Ball, Navy Nurses Corps Ball, USMC Ball, and four USCG Balls with the Commandant in attnedance at one of them and only received praises for my attire, even from Admiral Allen the Commandant. Oh, and it wasn't even the CG Tartan!

**MacMillan of Rathdown** · 30th July 09, 11:39 AM

Far be it from me to tell anyone, even a Coast Guard officer, that they should follow the regulations regarding the wearing of their uniform as set forth by their respective branch of service. If you want to wear your Coast Guard uniform dinner dress jacket with civilian attire, that's fine by me.

However, simply because some are willfully in breech of regulations does not imply that their actions are approved or condoned; merely that those actions are tolerated by others, higher up in the chain of command.

The original question raised on this thread concerned itself with whether or not it was proper to wear service ribbons on a Prince Charlie coatee. That question has been answered. The thread has now drifted into another area, that of whether or not the regulations prohibiting the wearing of United States military uniform items with civilian clothes should be adhered to.

In my opinion, as a matter of respect for the service, military regulations should be followed, not flaunted. Others may disagree. Either way, the topic of obeying U.S. military regulations would seem to be well beyond the intended scope of this forum. That being the case, perhaps this thread should be ended before things go further afield, or remarks become intemperate.

**KiltedCoastie** · 30th July 09, 01:29 PM

USCG UNIFORM REGS:
3.B.1. Dinner Dress Blue Jacket
Dress Coat Buttons
Substitute CG buttons for Navy buttons for both men and women.
Blue Evening Trousers
For men: CG Tartan or appropriate authorized Tartan optional IAW 4.E.3.
Blue Formal Skirt/Slacks
For women: skirt or slacks optional.
Formal White Shirt
Men: white pique long sleeve shirt with wing tip collar.
Women: soft pleated long sleeve.
Waistcoat
White pique cloth for men only.
Gold Cummerbund
For women only.
Tie
Men: white bow tie. Women: black formal dress necktie.
Small Medals
Men: worn 3” below left lapel notch.
Women: 1/3 of distance between shoulder & bottom hem of jacket.
Miniature Qualification Insignia, Devices, and
Small Identification Badges
White Gloves
At prescribing officers discretion.
White Suspenders
Optional for men.
Black Socks or Hosiery
Socks are worn with oxfords, hosiery with pumps or flats.
Black Oxford Shoes
Oxfords are worn with trousers for men.
Black Pumps or Flats
Pumps or flats are worn with formal dress skirt or slacks for women.
Head Gear
Combination cap for men or women; tiara optional for women.
Occasions for Wear
(After 6:00 P.M.)
Official evening functions when civilians wear formal white tie and tails such as diplomatic service, ceremonial events, formal wedding party. Prescribed for Flag Officers, Captains, MCPOCG, Area CMC’s and personnel assigned to duty where required by protocol.

**KiltedCoastie** · 30th July 09, 04:34 PM

When I changed them in the post

**Highland Logan** · 30th July 09, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by KiltedCoastie

When I changed them in the post

Kind of lowers your credibility a tad, or if you prefer a nautical term, the wind has been removed from your sails.

Frank

**KiltedCoastie** · 30th July 09, 10:45 PM

It was supposed to be a joke. But to be lectured by civilians as to the proper wear of my uniform that I have earned the right to wear, a combat vetern--active duty officer, is rather insulting. One thing I have learned is nothing really bothers me too much, especially how to wear a kilt. If the man wears it proudly no one is going to question his attire, no matter how anal some people can be. I have seen way too much death in my short life to worry about something so simple.
As far as credibility, I have established that through diligent devotion to duty and my country.

**Highland Logan** · 31st July 09, 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by KiltedCoastie

It was supposed to be a joke. But to be lectured by civilians as to the proper wear of my uniform that I have earned the right to wear, a combat vetern--active duty officer, is rather insulting. One thing I have learned is nothing really bothers me too much, especially how to wear a kilt. If the man wears it proudly no one is going to question his attire, no matter how anal some people can be. I have seen way too much death in my short life to worry about something so simple.
As far as credibility, I have established that through diligent devotion to duty and my country.

Really!? I'm not US Coast Guard, but I served my country for 13 years in the Army, and in Canada at least you were expected to wear your uniform properly... that's pride! Not self indulgence in wanted to change it to suit ones self. Any man or woman who thought they had some right to change their uniform would never have my respect. And as to your joke; you did nothing to indicate that you were having us on, you stated it as fact because MoR took you to task.

Frank