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11th November 11, 05:41 PM
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Re: PS, Robert...
 Originally Posted by MacLowlife
PS,
Robert, am I correct that you can button your jacket either with the lapels back or with the front closed, double breasted fashion?
Yes sir. You are most correct.
As for example, here you have a "Le Chateaubriand" coatee open:

...and closed :

Best,
Robert
Last edited by Ancienne Alliance; 11th November 11 at 05:47 PM.
Robert Amyot-MacKinnon
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13th November 11, 08:33 AM
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Re: Does anyone make this style coatee?
Tobus-Readers;
The fellow in the drawing is wearing a common workmans coat with added cuffs, straps, fancy buttons & pockets.
By analogy, it is like buying a "Wolverine" brown canvass work coat at WalMart,& adding the 'frippies'.
It does make a good kilt coat: I have one in off white canvass, & one in grey wool, neither has the 'fancy doo-dads' however.
If you are at least semi-skilled in sewing, I can provide the Pattern source, to make your own.
(Yes, I am trying to get the images posted!)
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14th November 11, 10:11 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by Mr.Charles Anthony
If you are at least semi-skilled in sewing, I can provide the Pattern source, to make your own.
Provide away!
--dbh
When given a choice, most people will choose.
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14th November 11, 10:03 AM
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Re: Does anyone make this style coatee?
details : are the epaulets buttoned on both sides?
the pocket flaps go to the bottom of the coat. Are they very short pockets or ornamental ?
I've been wondering this myself. MacLeay didn't give us a very good view of these. I can't tell if they're external pocket flaps or "Inverness flaps".
If the experts can't make a determination, I might opt to make them external pocket flaps. Not only for (limited) functionality, but also to keep it away from the more formal side of things.
On the epaulets, it does seem to appear that there are buttons on both ends.
The fellow in the drawing is wearing a common workmans coat with added cuffs, straps, fancy buttons & pockets.
By analogy, it is like buying a "Wolverine" brown canvass work coat at WalMart,& adding the 'frippies'.
That's an interesting theory. What exactly do you mean by "common workmans coat"? And how do you arrive at this conclusion, as opposed to it being specifically made to be as shown?
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14th November 11, 05:53 PM
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Re: Does anyone make this style coatee?
Tobas!
Pardon the delay in a reply- I do not view a computer every day; But;
to answer the Good Question.
It is a common workmans coat, by which I mean the coat you would toss on to feed the horse in the morning, cut firewood &tc. It is not a coat for Sunday-go-to-meeting. That would be the coat you would see in an Image of, say, Benj.Franklin. I arrive at the conclusion by 1st reading & then checking the Sources listed in the Pattern I purchased to make the coat for myself, the 1st one i blanket wool, to do the chores around my own farm(& I like more than a Walmart workcoat).
As to View that it has been 'tricked up' I infere,1) that I did the same when I made the coat in white canvass. 2) A long association with 18th Century tailoring tells me the same. 3) If you were to look thru a flock of images of workmans coats, you wil find all sorts of variations on the theme.
Let me use the coat you are use to seeing on a Founding Father of your choice, as an ensample. The coat could be made of plain wool, 4 body panels, and 2, two part sleeves. That is the basic coat. To make it different, the cuffs can be false, deep, or shallow, the buttons can be plain or fancy. Or the Basic Coat can be plain silk, patterned silk, white linnen &tc. The Button Holes can be worked, taped, laced or false. The lining can be plain, fancy, half lined, good facings with common linnen linings not seen. The entire list is Very Long; but the Point, I hope, is clear. You can vary any coat to suit the occasion. In the Occasion of the Pictured Coat, which started the thread, e have the Era of "All things Highland" craze. So it is no small surmize that the coat would be altered to suit the 'fashion of the times'. Look also at other "Highland Coats" of the era, and many, if not all, are variants on the styles of the time, just as the Prince Charley coat is simply a tailcoat, sans tails & with a few 'tidbits' added. And the tailcoat goes back to circa 1800. Does that prove helpful? If nay, let me know.
With thanks for your interest, I remain
Mr.C.Anthony
Historical Tailor
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15th November 11, 09:16 AM
#6
Re: Does anyone make this style coatee?
See this thread
related thread
Courtesy Mr. Charles Anthony
And a link to the page he mentions
http://www.kannikskorner.com/patmen.htm
Proudly Duncan [maternal], MacDonald and MacDaniel [paternal].
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