Silly Title wanted, or not!

[CameronCat]

Right.
I was away for a day, in which time things seem to have cooled a bit. I was also the victim of a very well-planned, professional level April Fool prank which took a bit of sorting.

The reason the Scots fight among themselves so much is that they are always guaranteed a worthy opponent.

To reply:

>> Zardoz has clarified a previous post, saying, "I liked, and am in favor of returning, the auto-generated post count titles like 'Kilted Warrior', 'Kilted Elder', etc. I also like, and am in favor of the honorific or 'vanity' titles, either as descriptive or humorous references to certain members and their contribution."

Obviously, this no longer sums my position. With respect, I disagree with the first part, but support the second part.

>> Referring to how honorary titles were assigned, i.e, by the Mods, TattooBradley noted: "And if you completely read it it should also be clear thta this was ALWAYS the case, even before the removal."

I did note that and ask that it continue, being based solely on merit or contribution to the group.

>> Additionally, TB also said: "Just for clarification, I personally see removing the canned (post count based titles) as a good thing. I, however, see removing of the honorary titles (those given by the moderators and owner at the time) as a very bad thing.

Words from a moderator, which should carry some weight. I have no view on the "good or badness" of removing the honorary titles but hope only that the method of assignment does not change when they return.

-> I believe we have all made our points and are now clear on where everyone stands. At this point I officially withdraw from this thread and will not reply further to title and rank matters. Non-thread matters follow.

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>> Many noted apparent flaws in the "member counter" or whatever does that. That probably needs to be sorted at a level above our pay-grades; I just used the numbers as I found them. But clicking around I did find that I had once been credited with being on-line here at 2:30 a.m. Never happened--is the board running on GMT or universal time?

>> @Canuck: "I'm not sure how serious I should take you. For one, you haven't bothered to fill out your profile. and two, your join date is the 10th of this month. Which implies you don't know how this forum was run previously, or if you were lurking you decided at that time not to participate.
I am pleased that you are exploring other threads. A lot has happened on this forum over the past 6 years...

Take me as you will, but please do it with care. You infer way too much where there is only one fact in hand, an incomplete profile which implies nothing by its presence (or absence).

Perhaps I didn't know the profile was there, or chose not to complete it, or felt the profile questions brought nothing to the kilt and heritage discussions, or am concerned about Internet security, or any of a number of other reasons. Since you appear to be clocking my posts, I direct you to my first in the Newbie section and various others from which you may draw more accurate inferences.

However, you also won't find me on "SpaceFace" , "MyBook," or Twitter (aptly named for its users.) From that, you may correctly infer that I am, like others here, a bit of a curmudgeon.

At the risk of accusing you of newbie-bashing (which I'm not), please rest assured that this is not my first haggis-hunt. I lurked here for at least two years and learned a lot. I also learned who the main players are and who to trust.

I have moderated a similar forum on an unrelated professional topic and am very aware of how this and other forums operate, both physically and politically. As well, I am a member of other Scots and heritage groups, both on-line and on-ground.

As you say, a lot went on here for six years. Too true, and recently when I saw that some of it had stopped happening, I decided to join. However, it was not until after I joined that I found the list was under new management, which accounted most of the changes. Did I join strictly because titles were gone? No, but I noticed it along with some other things.

My participation in this thread was prompted by a poster saying he had seen no opposition to proposals on which the poll was based. Kind'a seemed like bait in the water since I held a firm opinion.

Since this thread is probably winding down, I respectfully ask Canuck to continue via PMs if so desired.

Otherwise, thanks for the craic!


Peace
JT

[ccga3359]

The poll has been hovering around the 75% mark in favour of the return of titles. Rather than seeing a discussion going back and forth with no effrt to push it forward perhaps we should put it to bed. Let's allow Steve do as he wishes with the poll results.

[Canuck]

, I respectfully ask Canuck to continue via PMs if so desired.

Otherwise, thanks for the craic!


Peace
JT

No need Sir, From this post you have articulated your views clearly, I have the information I require. I'm pleased that I have given you the opportunity to enjoy yourself.
You also have the avenue of PM's if you desire to do so.
With respect
Cheers
Robert

[Rob Wright]

Some like the post ranks they get for posting and use them as an incentive to post. My incentive is every ten posts I make, I change my avatar. I'm sure many of the forum appreciate that diligence on my part

Rob

[Macman]

Some like the post ranks they get for posting and use them as an incentive to post. My incentive is every ten posts I make, I change my avatar. I'm sure many of the forum appreciate that diligence on my part

Rob

I do, Rob! You have the best avatars on the forum!

[ccga3359]

I do, Rob! You have the best avatars on the forum!

Ahem!

[morrison]

"WOOOFF! in"Weimaraner" breed, that means,

wOw,
There are many insightful, a couple inciting, and quite a few rather long reply posts in this excellent process of parsing, deciphering, retorting, joking, and generally open minded parlay of opining ones mindset to a more exacting posture.
That said, could y'all encourage others also to post by being a bit shorter in post length and friendlier in address. There are hundreds of other members who might enjoy joining into the conversation. It hasn't been talked to death. It is still open and inviting for participation while the tone is kept level and/or light toward humor. If you really want to make a most serious point or presentation of an opinion please make it known at the start of that post and in that post make it "Polite, Not overly Formal, and SHORT." (the use of QUOTE is a heavy tool. Use it sparingly. Sometimes in the text of your reply post you can refer to OP {post #1}, or post #39, etc)
Long reply posts are not easy to want to read and make reading the entire thread more arduous than needs be for a first time reader of the thread!

AFTER ALL, it IS about humor. The titles and getting them and all!
arf"

[Dr Mac]

Totally agree with Improv1. The poll indicates that a definite majority of the rabble want the titles returned (hopefully of all types). I'm noting that the posts on this issue are mostly Mar/Apr and there are still no titles restored (now in June) for post counts.
Please restore those, too, Steve. They don't separate us, honest. They add incentive, nurture involvement, and contribute zest to the forum!

[ForresterModern]

First, I agree with Zardoz and GDub ( we flat cappers have to stick together )--post-up ranking titles--yes, vanity titles--yes, and I for one don't mind the post counts--it is afterall only one additional factor in how one assesses the value of what a member says in his/her posts, but more information is better than less so leave it. It is pretty small and unobtrusive.

I cannot believe I am saying this, however, that I agree with Grant (aka Kilted Abuser of Rubber Chickens) that we have pretty much beaten this subject into the ground from a discussion standpoint, and that the poll goes on for the predetermined time for those who wish to continue to vote.

Let us all give it a rest and discuss something fun-----like rubber chicken sporrans or something.

jeff

[auld argonian]

Frankly, I just got to be a "Grand Defender of the Kilt"...not like I was going to have that printed on my business cards but it was sorta nice.

And I always had hoped for some kind of honorary distinction like "Kilted Urban Smartass" or "Kilted Cynic" but that always seemed unlikely. I assumed that some of those honoraries were legitimate, thoughtful assignments but that several of them were "in jokes", so I understood the new management clearing the slate....a new broom and all that...

The post determined titles...? I doubt that anybody who was starting out here would give any extra credence to the posters with those titles since the titles themselves just sound tongue-in-cheek...I mean, Kilted Samurai...what's that all about? Also anybody asking a legitimate question is going to get several answers (at least) so they ought to be able to separate the bear $#!+ from the buckwheat pretty well and anybody who's full of it, whether they have a gazillion posts or not. is going to be sussed out relatively quickly.

I'm going to miss being a Grand Defender...but I can see the logic in hitting the reset button here. As to the folks who are claiming that it's more democratic this way...okay...I don't think that the post determined titles were supposed to establish some kind of hierarchy but if it makes you feel better...enjoy.

Best

AA