Traditional Civilian Highland SHIRTS

[English Bloke]

... Imagine if you will ...

Your description seems perfectly sensible and donning such an article sounds a relatively simple process. I wonder though how simple it will be after the party and it's time to remove it. Bearing in mind consumption of the better part of a decanter of Port and a few stiff ones at the bar for the road...

I have a vision in my head of a one man wrestling match, complete with two half nelsons and an arial somersault. Maybe partaking in a little less aperitif would help me do the trick? I never was good at numbers.

Cracking idea for a shirt though... Until some ill mannered Oik with one on, decides to remove his jacket at the table [Gawd forbid!]. He'd look like a lost in-patient.

[WolfmanJack]

This is the shirt MoR is talking about.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

This is the shirt MoR is talking about.

Jack,
Thanks for posting the photo. This is a fairly early shirt; by the 1920s the back was completely open.

Interestingly this style of shirt (along with the detachable stiff collar) were invented in Troy, New York, once the "shirt and collar" capitol of the world.

[MacLowlife]

Thanks W-Jack.

The diagrams are great. MoR is right as usual, my experience is with shirts that open all of the way down in the back, but the picture is representative otherwise.

I think I have mentioned before- now and then some designer or company will offer a formal shirt in tartan. Not just the neat trick of making the body in tartan with the bib and cuffs and collar ( all of the parts visible when you have your jacket on) in white, but An Entire Pleated Bosom Shirt in tartan. Brooks Brother had one that looked to be McPherson Dress, I think, and Ralph Lauren has done one in Black Watch and one in what I believe may be dome fashion variant of MacLeod.

Here is the link for a picture of the tartan full dress shirt:


https://picasaweb.google.com/MacLowl...05913942193986


As usual, some more capable person is welcome to actually load the picture. I just can't do that.
And then, I invite someone to ID the tartan.

AND THEN (Dude, where's my car)
AND THEN, I welcome comments on this clearly NON TRADITIONAL CIVILIAN HIGHLAND shirt.

The tartan has a tiny red and a tiny yellow line like MacLeod, but then there is all of that white. There IS dark dark green as well...

Whoever is kindly [posting the proper links, please don't miss THIS: https://picasaweb.google.com/MacLowl...12621945382066

[CMcG]

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As usual, some more capable person is welcome to actually load the picture. I just can't do that.
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Whoever is kindly [posting the proper links, please don't miss THIS:

Here are the images, though I'll reserve my judgment just yet:

[Jock Scot]

Here are the images, though I'll reserve my judgment just yet:

Sigh and sigh again.

In my "no button-down collar,no shirt pocket" post, I deleted NO tartanesque and NO lumberjackesque shirts, to see if they would come up during further conversation in the thread. I would have bet the farm that they would!

Alright what we choose to wear is entirely our own choice, but we are talking traditional Highland wear here, so there are degrees of what works and what does not work with the overall look.In my not so humble opinion based also, on more than a modicum of experience these type of shirts are just too much when worn with the kilt and are not traditionally worn as such.

I am not saying that one can't wear them, but traditionally, a shirt of more subtle checks, stripes, or plain hue are worn and experience(not necessarily mine!) does show what works and what does not.Why? Well the tartan theme can be overdone and eight yards of tartan in the kilt is more than enough for most and then adding tartan waistcoats and sometimes tartan jackets too, well I think a contrasting and subtle shirt is a welcome relief to the eye and sets off the outfit to best advantage.

So are these tartanesque/lumberjackesque shirts subtle? Not hardly!

[saxandpipes]

Here are the images, though I'll reserve my judgment just yet:

Oh dear...! :S

[Spartan Tartan]

Here are the images, though I'll reserve my judgment just yet:

This actually hurts my eyes...

[Cygnus]

I've been tempted by a similar shirt in my tartan, though I don't think I would consider it for formal wear (especially considering that it has plain buttons rather than holes for studs). In fact, I probably wouldn't even wear it with my kilt unless I really wanted to go over the top on tartan day.

To me, shirts like that are best used to show your clan affiliation when not kilted.

[cruiser348]

Not the first time I've said this in discussions of highland fashion, but, I agree with Jock. I'm not a fan of wearing a tartan style shirt with a kilt. I would think them more for casual wear with a pair of khakis or other pa*** myself.
As far as not mentioning the use of a belt with a PC in the picture it's easy to understand. My eyes were too overwhelmed to notice until after it had been mentioned.