Masonic Tartan

**sav** · 20th July 05, 08:48 AM

For those of you kilted bretheren out there:
The following website has available cloth in the "Grand Lodge of Scotland" tartan. It's a beautiful Green-based tartan...I'd love to have a tank made in this cloth. They have quite a few other masonic kilt-related items as well.
http://masonicthemes.com/
My apologies if y'all know about this already!
Fraternally,
Bro. S. Sankaran

Logan Lodge #490, Altoona, PA

**Jimmy Carbomb** · 20th July 05, 09:13 AM

No sweat man! There's a LOAD of topics that keep re-appearing on this site due to the huge number of "newbies", and that's a good thing. It keeps new members informed, and keeps the "old guard" on their toes.;)

My Grandfather was a grand master in Canada, and I know that the traditions run DEEP with the Masonic Lodge. I've always loved the tartan, and have actualy seen it in fly-aways, sashes and cumberbunds. Since I am not a member, I'll never wear it. I can't imagine a kilt-wearing member NOT having SOMETHING made out of it! It's truly beautiful.

**Doc Hudson** · 20th July 05, 09:12 PM

It is on my wish list Brother!

I've been drooling over that tartan for more than a year.

**Riverkilt** · 20th July 05, 09:14 PM

Cool tartan...same situation as Jimmy. A great grandfather was a Mason, his Masonic sword sorta melted in the great Hinkley fire in Hinkley, Minn in 1894. The sword has been handed down the generations to me. I thought it best to donate it to the Hinkley Fire Museum there so others could see the intensity of that forest fire.

My great grandfather and grandfather survived the fire in the town gravel pit which had about 4' of water in it.

But I'll never be a Mason since I'm not even Christian.

Last weekend as I was headed back for the Flagstaff Highland Games from the motel a guy came running up to my truck begging for a ride to get a key for his big rig tractor. He'd locked himself out accidently. He did a double take when he got in but never asked about my kilt. He did venture that he was a Mason and that Mason's helped each other and asked if I was a Mason. Told him no, but I was a sober member of Alcoholics Anonymous and we did the same type of helping others. Then told him about my great grandfather.

Think I left him kinda bewildered when he got back he climbed right up into his semi and hit the road.

Ron

**Dreadbelly** · 20th July 05, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by Riverkilt

Cool tartan...same situation as Jimmy. A great grandfather was a Mason, his Masonic sword sorta melted in the great Hinkley fire in Hinkley, Minn in 1894. The sword has been handed down the generations to me. I thought it best to donate it to the Hinkley Fire Museum there so others could see the intensity of that forest fire.

My great grandfather and grandfather survived the fire in the town gravel pit which had about 4' of water in it.

But I'll never be a Mason since I'm not even Christian.

Last weekend as I was headed back for the Flagstaff Highland Games from the motel a guy came running up to my truck begging for a ride to get a key for his big rig tractor. He'd locked himself out accidently. He did a double take when he got in but never asked about my kilt. He did venture that he was a Mason and that Mason's helped each other and asked if I was a Mason. Told him no, but I was a sober member of Alcoholics Anonymous and we did the same type of helping others. Then told him about my great grandfather.

Think I left him kinda bewildered when he got back he climbed right up into his semi and hit the road.

Ron

And completely off topic... Well, sort of, but Ron mentioned AA.

I uh, have been painfully and completely stone cold sober since Feb 1. Haven't been attending meetings as much as I would like to.

My liver is a whimpering simpering milksop. I already have lumps and spots, I have faced the wee beastie dragon and have earned the title of Sir Osis of the Livah.

Been getting harder lately... It's been damn bloody hot... I keep thinking about how nice and refreshing a pina colada would be. It hurts. I hate my self.

I am going to go slam my head into the wall now.

billmcc · 20th July 05, 11:19 PM

Brother Sankaran,
Masonic Themes is based in Scotland. Here is a US dealer for Grand Lodge of Scotland items: http://www.kilts.com/

Jimmy C.,
The Grand Lodge of Canada has its own tartan. It is very different from the Grand Lodge of Scotland tartan. See it here:
http://masonicthemes.com/?p=store&a=1&deptid=95&pid=

Riverkilt,
Being a Christian is not a requirement to be a Mason. The requirement is you must believe in a God. Which God is up to you.

Regards,
Bro. Bill McCaughtry
Valley-Hi Lodge #1407, San Antonio, Texas

**Doc Hudson** · 20th July 05, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by billmcc

Being a Christian is not a requirement to be a Mason. The requirement is you must believe in a God. Which God is up to you.

Regards,
Bro. Bill McCaughtry
Valley-Hi Lodge #1407, San Antonio, Texas

Brother Bill,

Ron and I have just had a little discussion about this very matter.

Larry "Doc" Hudson
Indianola Lodge #450, Indianola MS

**Doc Hudson** · 20th July 05, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by Dreadbelly

And completely off topic... Well, sort of, but Ron mentioned AA.

I uh, have been painfully and completely stone cold sober since Feb 1. Haven't been attending meetings as much as I would like to.

My liver is a whimpering simpering milksop. I already have lumps and spots, I have faced the wee beastie dragon and have earned the title of Sir Osis of the Livah.

Been getting harder lately... It's been damn bloody hot... I keep thinking about how nice and refreshing a pina colada would be. It hurts. I hate my self.

I am going to go slam my head into the wall now.

Have a couple of glasses of iced tea and get thyself to a meeting. I've come to enjoy our exchanges, I'd hate to hear you've fallen off the wagon and drank yourself to death,

billmcc · 21st July 05, 12:13 AM

Just found out about a new Masonic tartan called the Freemason Universal Tartan.
Read about it and see it here:
http://www.kilts.com/universal.htm

**M. A. C. Newsome** · 21st July 05, 04:19 AM

Billmcc wrote:

Being a Christian is not a requirement to be a Mason. The requirement is you must believe in a God. Which God is up to you.

In point of fact (in case anyone is interested) many Christian bodies either forbid their members to be Masons, or discourage it.

Among those Christian bodies that forbid members to be Masons are:
Catholics [the largest body of Christians world-wide]
Eastern Orthodox [the second largest body of Christians world-wide]
Lutherans [one of the largest groups of Protestants]
Most all Pentecostal, Holiness, and Assemblies of God denominations
The Church of the Nazarene
Christian Reformed Church
Quakers
Mennonites
Amish
Seventh-Day Adventist
Jehovahs Witnesses

While many of the more mainline Protestant denominations (Baptists, Methodists, Episcopalians, Presbyterians) have not expressly forbid lodge membership, many have condemned either the Masons in particular or secret societies in general in various non-binding statements.

For instance, in 1992, the Southern Baptist Convention (representing the laegest Protestant body in the US) voted to do a study of Freemasonry, and in their final report concluded that many tenants of Masonry were incompatible with Christian and Southern Baptist doctrine. But because of the way the SBC is structured, they left the decision of membership up to the individual. One can find similar non-binding statements coming from various Methodist and Episcopal bodies, as well.

So Ron's statement that he cannot be a Mason because he is not a Christian would strike many Christians as odd. It is estimated that three out of four Christians world wide belong to Churches that either expressly forbid or strongly discourage Lodge membership!

Aye,
Matt