Jacobite Rebellions information

[yoippari]

I am putting together a speech about the Jacobite Rebellions. Prefereably not just the last one, but all five (there were five right?).

I need at least 10 sources and only three of them can be web sites but any information from here would be counted as an interview source. Since I need to record sources I need more than posts by people who have read a little about them, but I need posts from people who *know* what they are talking about. Curators, history majors, that kind of thing.

Also if any of you know of "periodicals" that have applicable information it would be much appreciated. I have access to EBSCOhost and am using it, but I need more sources.

[clancelt]

Good book on the movement and political aspects:

THE STUART PRETENDERS. A History of the Jacobite Movement
by Sir Charles Petrie

Published 1933

Should be able to find a cheap copy on abebooks.

[macwilkin]

EBSCO host is a good place to start, but not necessarily on the history end, and it tends to be oriented towards the American side of the Atlantic. Are you using EBSCO through your school, and more importantly, have you visited with your local public or school reference librarians? You might have access to sources that you never even dreamed about.

One source I would recommend is:

"Damn Rebel Bitches: The women of the '45" by Maggie Craig (Edinburgh: Mainstream Publishing, 2000). Whilst the book does focus on the role women played in the '45, it does also present a fairly good oveview of the last Stuart rebellion as well.

"1745: A military history of the last Jacobite rising" by Scottish military historian Stuart Reid is also worth taking a look at.

Cheers,

Todd



I'll see what else I can dig up, but

[yoippari]

EBSCO is through my school but I also have access to it from home. I just checked the online catalogue for my school and the local public library and they don't have any of the books you mentioned. I don't have enough time to get them shipped either.

I will physicly go in and check but I will have to keep looking online for now.

[macwilkin]

Here are several web sites you might wish to peruse:

http://www.jacobite.ca/
The Jacobite Heritage, many primary sources dealing with the Jacobites

http://www.northumbrianjacobites.org.uk/
A web site about English Jacobites (yes, there was such a creature!)

http://www.royalstuartsociety.com/
The web site of the Royal Stuart Society -- be sure to check out the "Succession" page

Hopefully this will help!

Cheers,

Todd

[macsim]

This might be more info than you want in one speech but "Highland Heritage" by Celeste Ray (***'t prof. of anthropology at the University of the South in Swanee, TN) has a lot of good stuff about the Jacobites and how "Highlandism" came down to us in the Highland Games arena. She talks about what was really going on back then and how it has been misinterpreted and twisted into what we have today (such as how all of Scotland has taken on a "Highland" identity drawn maily from the '45 era even though Scotland was anything but unified under the Bonnie Prince). From chapter 1, "A Jacobite focus perpetuates the image of the bagpiping "Scot," perennially dressed in plaids of rainbow brilliance, and a defeatist view of history that centers tragedy and grievance in the national consciousness." Recommended reading for anyone who frequents the games scene.

[haukehaien]

I would also suggest "The '45" by Christopher Duffy. It's an excellent book for a source. Here's the link to it on Amazon , if you don't want to buy it you should be able to get enough info for a librarian to find it.

[macwilkin]

This might be more info than you want in one speech but "Highland Heritage" by Celeste Ray (***'t prof. of anthropology at the University of the South in Swanee, TN) has a lot of good stuff about the Jacobites and how "Highlandism" came down to us in the Highland Games arena. She talks about what was really going on back then and how it has been misinterpreted and twisted into what we have today (such as how all of Scotland has taken on a "Highland" identity drawn maily from the '45 era even though Scotland was anything but unified under the Bonnie Prince). From chapter 1, "A Jacobite focus perpetuates the image of the bagpiping "Scot," perennially dressed in plaids of rainbow brilliance, and a defeatist view of history that centers tragedy and grievance in the national consciousness." Recommended reading for anyone who frequents the games scene.

Macsim -- good point for bringing up "Highland Heritage". On my "top ten" reading list for anyone interested in the Scots diaspora to America. Another good source is "The Highland Scots of North Carolina" by Duane G. Meyer. Dr. Meyer was a former President and more importantly, a history professor of my alma mater, Southwest Missouri State.

"A Dance called America" by James Hunter is also good for the Jacobite background of many Scots Loyalists during the American Revolution.

Cheers,

Todd

[yoippari]

I did a search on the online catalog for all of the mentioned titles and came up with nothing. Are these slightly obscure? or would they be reference books and may not be in the catalog?

I found a nonfiction book "Bonnie Prince Charlie" copyright 1989 that looks promising but that is only one source. I'm starting to think I need to go to my fall back topic of seperation of church and state. Not as interesting, according to the class, but if I can't find enough information and sources I may be forced. If it comes to that I will see if I can reschedule my speech to be next week.

I guess I need to actually head down to the library and start looking at the books themselves instead of what books are available.

[macwilkin]

I guess I need to actually head down to the library and start looking at the books themselves instead of what books are available.

Is there a university near-by? You may not be able to check items out if you're not a university student, but you might be able to use some resources "in-house" and take notes, make photocopies, etc. Many of the titles may be available at the university level, although public libraries may have some as well. Some are published in the UK, so that may be part of the problem.

Also, some might be housed in a local history & genealogy collection -- you might see if your public library has such a section. Genealogical society libraries might have them as well.

In any case, make the reference desk your first stop in whatever library you visit, and ask a librarian for help. Online catalogs are great, but having someone who knows the "tricks of the trade" and other resources is even better!

Cheers and good luck!

Todd