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    Understanding Comments.

    What follows is bound to be contentious, but it is something I've been thinking about or some time!

    All too often I read posts that are expressing annoyance at the comments of others, who possibly refer to the posters kilt as a skirt, or even make assumptions as to the posters motives in wearing such a garment.

    Yet very often those same comments appear to be uttered in a supportive, even complimentary way. This in turn suggests to me that we are wrong to be annoyed at such comments, rather we should see them as spportive, albeit misplaced.

    Please note that I'm not thinking about those who are deliberately rude: rather the people who say something like 'What a nice skirt-or I do like to see a man in a skirt'.

    Now I must go back into my own history as a kilt wearer for more years than I'd care to admit.

    To recently I'd be greeted by strangers who would admire my kilt, but asume that rather than wearing it as a day to day garment, I must be a piper-going to a dance or be engaged in some entirely Scottish activity. Certainly their term of reference did not include a man wearing a kilt on a day to day basis for going about their day to day activities. To put it another way, I was outside their event horizon.

    However with the growing exposure of the traditional tartan kilt in recent years, I appear to have moved into that same event horizon, and it is accepted as a day to day garment.

    So I can see a situation where my traditional kilt has moved, from being a special occasion mode of dress, to an accepted way of being clad.

    Now we have a situation where many on this board are from lands not usually associated with the kilt, and where it is a gament that for many is certainly outside the event horizon. So for many the sight of a man in a kilt is something strange, and an occasion for which they have neither terms of reference nor even a vocabulary.

    Now to get into trouble, I printed some pictures of what might be termed contemprary kilts such as the UK, and showed then to a very traditional kilt wearer of my aquaintance who certainly does not frequent boards such as this: and asked him what he saw?

    His horizon was such that he did not see a kilt, rather he saw men in skirts, and for him there was no connection between the pictures and what he perceived as a kilt.

    I then offered a bit more information about contenporary kilts, and his reaction was 'a good idea-why not': however he continued to have difficulty associating them with what he thought of as a kilt.

    Now to go back to the casual encounter with someone who might never have seen a chap in a kilt, and who have no personal terms of reference, or even words to fit the occasion. Too even if they make the association in respect of a tartan kilt, they are liable to be entirely lost when the kilt is say khaki or some other contemporary non tartan material.

    So we have a situation where we are not only beyond their event horizon, we have forced them into a situation for which they are entirely unprepared in any respect. So it is quite natural for them to make assumptions, use words even, which might distress the proud kiltwearer.

    However we must ask ourselves who has created the situation: it is not that third party, who is all too often seeking ways of being complimentary, positive even: it is us. For we have put them in that position of facing something entirely new and unexpected.

    So rather than be annoyed, we should be delighted with a positive response, even if it is laden with the wrong words and misconceptions.

    For it gives us an opening to be grateful, and so foster acceptance of the kilt: and further it is possible that there will be an opening to develop a positive dialogue which will in turn correct their misconceptions in a freindly way.

    So the ball is in our court to be above slights which are only in our minds, and to by our wearing of bother traditional and contemporary kilts, broaden that event horizon, so gradually more and more people will come to accept our kilts as a perfectly normal way for hetrosexual non-crossdressing men to dress.

    In the end it comes down to our turning the world to our advantage, rather than assume the role of victim.

    James

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    Thanks for this James, it is sometimes hard to take a compliment.
    Glen McGuire

    A Life Lived in Fear, Is a Life Half Lived.

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    Yes, thanks James. I too find myself defending my need to be "right" and pass up opportunities to connect with another person with good intentions. A good lesson for the new year.

    Dale
    --Working for the earth is not a way to get rich, it is a way to be rich

    The Most Honourable Dale the Unctuous of Giggleswick under Table

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    Understanding comments

    Plenty of words of wisdom there James.

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    I really don't care how they call it...I'm free to wear it, others are free to like it, dislike it, think it's silly or even stupid.


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    Always remember to thank the person who gives you the compliment. Don't get to flustered. ??:

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    James, those are very wise words. It's a good think to consider as the New Year dawns -- how we react and treat others when they see us in our kilts.

    Words of wisdom are always a welcome read. :-)

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    Ignorance is OK

    I usually look for the expression on the face of the person saying something to me about my wearing a kilt. If its positive, the face will show it. I don't mind my kilt being called a skirt. Ignorance is forgivable, if the occasion allows I have the opportunity to enlighten someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiltman
    Ignorance is forgivable, if the occasion allows I have the opportunity to enlighten someone.
    That's right. Ignorance is an opportunity for education. Stupidity on the other hand....
    We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance. - Japanese Proverb

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    I have only one kilt, a black AK that I have been wearing for a few months. I am in an area that has a major Celtic festival, but people still are uncomfortable with men wearing a kilt.

    It is just not "normal" to them. I was wearing my kilt today, and went into Wal-Mart and the grocery store, and heard snickers, giggles, etc. but others reacted (or did not react) courteously.

    As I have said, as you have, Our reactions/responses will guide how others react/respond to us!

    Happy New year all!
    Mark Dockendorf
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