Offered 50 USD

**mbhandy** · 24th May 06, 04:57 PM

I made a offer to StarryNightRecords/ETC on Ebay of $50 for his CAMERON TARTAN KILT
http://cgi.ebay.com/CAMERON-TARTAN-K...QQcmdZViewItem
I am starting to Jones... I have read the post about their kilts and I got my wife for her birthday a cameron skirt from Scotland and it looks great thought their kilt would match (looks the same).

But my Question is does anyone have any knowledge about their Practice canters.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ROSEWOOD-PRACTIC...QQcmdZViewItem

For that price how can I go wrong??? :confused:
Unless some of you pipers out there have an old used canter???

MrBill

**haukehaien** · 24th May 06, 06:33 PM

For that price how can I go wrong???

Easily. You can spend $15, plus shipping on a piece of junk chanter that isn't in tune with itself and that sounds like a mutant duck call rather than an instrument. After that, you can buy a real practice chanter for $50-75 and actually start to learn to play.

Do not buy one of the chanters from Asia; they are (at best) inadequate, and at worst garbage. If you want to learn the pipes, get an instructor and follow his/her advice on which chanter to buy. But whatever you do, don't buy a cheap chanter and expect to learn very much. The pipes are not an instrument that you pick up over the weekend, or even in a few months. If you intend to be any good (and I don't mean "Winning the gold at Oban" good; I mean "Not making everyone in earshot want to be violently ill" good) then you'll be on the chanter for at least a year before you start on the bagpipes. And you'll continue to use the chanter to learn new tunes, to practice embellishments and so on for the rest of your piping life. A good chanter isn't an expense, it's an investment. If you buy a good one and decide the pipes aren't for you, then you can sell it and get most of your investment back.

A bad chanter, on the other hand, will make it even more difficult to learn, or possibly even impossible. And if you decide to sell it, you'll be lucky to see a tenth of your initial cost - unless you rip off someone who doesn't know any better.

**michael steinrok** · 24th May 06, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by haukehaien

Easily. You can spend $15, plus shipping on a piece of junk chanter that isn't in tune with itself and that sounds like a mutant duck call rather than an instrument. After that, you can buy a real practice chanter for $50-75 and actually start to learn to play.

Do not buy one of the chanters from Asia; they are (at best) inadequate, and at worst garbage. If you want to learn the pipes, get an instructor and follow his/her advice on which chanter to buy. But whatever you do, don't buy a cheap chanter and expect to learn very much. The pipes are not an instrument that you pick up over the weekend, or even in a few months. If you intend to be any good (and I don't mean "Winning the gold at Oban" good; I mean "Not making everyone in earshot want to be violently ill" good) then you'll be on the chanter for at least a year before you start on the bagpipes. And you'll continue to use the chanter to learn new tunes, to practice embellishments and so on for the rest of your piping life. A good chanter isn't an expense, it's an investment. If you buy a good one and decide the pipes aren't for you, then you can sell it and get most of your investment back.

A bad chanter, on the other hand, will make it even more difficult to learn, or possibly even impossible. And if you decide to sell it, you'll be lucky to see a tenth of your initial cost - unless you rip off someone who doesn't know any better.

WOW

Dude tell us how you really feel

**haukehaien** · 24th May 06, 08:13 PM

WOW Dude tell us how you really feel

[include rant.h]

I went the Pakistani chanter route when I first started, and I'm still mad about it. Having learned the scale and practiced it often on a chanter that was not even close to being in tune with itself, it took me months to learn how to tune my pipe chanter - I had gotten so used to the wrong sounds and I had to relearn how to hear the right ones. Plus it was cheap (the mouthpiece, ferrule and sole fell off within a short time) and it sounded awful.

When it split and I bought a good PC, I was astounded at the difference. Seriously, the Asian pipe equipment is almost entirely crap. Check out this thread to see some other opinions on them. They're a waste of time and money, and what's worse is that they contribute to bad habits - so you lose not only the time you spend futzing around with them, but the time it takes you to unlearn.

I just hate seeing the things for sale, because I know that somebody, just like me, is looking at them and dreaming of becoming a piper, little knowing what lies in store. Somebody is going to buy them, become disgusted, and quit; whereas if they start out right, they have a chance of becoming a good piper. It's as though there were people selling cigar boxes with yardsticks nailed to them as "learner guitars". It's just not right.

Rant is now off.

**mrpharr** · 24th May 06, 08:29 PM

Is the chanter model that was on a previous thread worth the duckets?
see site for details.
http://www.hotpipes.com/pract3.html
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**David Thornton** · 25th May 06, 05:12 AM

Don't play, but I would love to have that kilt. They are just too long.

David

**mbhandy** · 26th May 06, 06:53 AM

Just got this from :

scott@starrynightrecords.com wrote:

Hello Bill, We have 2 Size 38s in this style. We don't have any size 40s at
the moment but that may change as we receive new shipments. $50 is Ok but
the Postage is $10 as well, thanks, Scott

So I guess I have to Wait.

MrBill

**mbhandy** · 26th May 06, 07:29 AM

I emailed him after I signed off here and after I got out of the shower I had received a reply::

Hi Bill, Next week we are going to get a new shipment, I will email you
back if we have this size. Thanks, Scott

Now that is good customer service.

MrBill

**KiltedCodeWarrior** · 26th May 06, 07:30 AM

$10 shipping from NY to UT? Sounds a little steep.

**auld argonian** · 26th May 06, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by KiltedCodeWarrior

$10 shipping from NY to UT? Sounds a little steep.

There's some kind of USPS Priority set price deal that's about $10...maybe that's how they ship.

Let's hope that they got hip and expanded their tartan selection if they're getting a fresh shipment....they took a flyer on this kilt thing and are probably suprised at the response...and grateful, no doubt, to the amount of discussion they've gotten on Xmarks.

Best

AA