Begging the mods' forbearance . . . P^^^s question

[Kid Cossack]

Gents:

Well, I've been thinking about, umm, gulp, err, bifurcated garments. Come on, you know what I'm talking about! One of the things that occurred to me was that for most of my life I've been wearing off the rack p&&&s. Well, I prefer tailored kilts, so why not tailored p***s?

What's a decent weight of wool to use to make the dread bifurcateds?

I do live in southeast Texas, so heat is an issue, but I am so taken with wool that I want to try my hands at making some of those, um, bifurcated things.

Twelve ounce?

What say the DIYers?

[ccga3359]

Trews, call them TREWS! It's the only acceptable way of asking :winks:. There was this recent thread that might help. The warmest pants I own are a pair of German Army wool trousers I believe wool used would be in the 16oz or higher range. When I was married in Jamaica I wore an antique wool tux possibly in the 12 - 14oz range and was not too uncomfortable in it even during the midday sun (Red Stripe helped). If I recall, you're in the warmer climes. I wonder if PV would also be a viable option.

[The Wizard of BC]

To give you a ball park figure to work with the fabric used in "Dockers" is in the 11-12 oz. range. Blue Jean Denim is 12-14 oz. and most dress slacks you would find in Sears will be in the 7-9 oz range.

Wool is a great insulator and has been used for men's trousers for a long time. But just as you had to get used to not having something on your legs with a kilt you will need a period of adjustments if you have never worn wool trousers.

A tailor made pair of trousers is as much a joy to wear as a tailor made kilt. It is incredible how comfortable they can be. And having a pair that takes into account your "Lie" and having the seat at the right height and taking into account which of your legs is longer really makes all the difference in the look.

[Kid Cossack]

Thank you, gentlemen. More and more, when I look around at mass produced goods, I find myself both appreciating them and disdaining them. Appreciating them? Why yes---imagine the economic miracle of mass production. Even Wally World (yes, even Wally World)---you can go and get a reasonable facsimile of just about anything you want! Disdaining them? Why yes---because off the rack is fine if you have an exactly off the rack body. Besides, I'm a long term fan of Bogart movies, and now that I've been wearing kilts PROPERLY, modern pants feel like they're falling off my butt.

I've got a pair of Swedish mil-surp wool trousers, and they're at least sixteen ounce (guessing, but that's what it feels like).

I remember when I wore suits regularly, and in chilly weather my legs were always cold---I think the 7-9 ounce range is just too light. And if I stick with wool (real wool, not a heavily blended wool) I think I'll be more comfortable.

Thanks again for the quick assistance!

[Pleater]

A fine worsted wool material is comfortable in many temperatures where a man made of the same weight and weave would be gently broiling its wearer.

If you can style a garment so that it skims the body closely but does not grip or bind then it is even better. Spending time making the seams flat and not having machine stitched neatening with polyester thread showing will make them even easier to wear.

I make hakama and other elements of the kamishimo, though not many kataginu - hakama are the pleated trousers, kataginu the wide shouldered pleated front overkimono. The kamishimo is the traditional garb of the samurai.

Light woolen fabric would be apt for the hakama, if you have any use for them. They are very easy to move in once you get used to them - it is rather easy to tread on the hem.