Jean Reid 1689

[Ancienne Alliance]

Greetings everyone,
Jean Reid, born in 1689, arrived in Canada before 1715.
His father's name is David. David Reid was living in Inverness, Scotland, born in 1661, maried to Elisabeth McKinnon, born in 1665 and also living in Inverness.
We find Jean Reid in LaPrairie, Canada, Feb 11, 1713 (14?).
At the time , he is getting married to Catherine Pripeau (or Primeau), born Nov. 30, 1698 in LaPrairie, Canada .
Do anyone know if ships sailed to Canada from Scotland before or around 1714 ?
Possibly, Jean Reid was a translator, like many, in France, from where he could have crossed to Nouvelle France, as Canada was called at that time.
I know that Robertson clansmen had to take shelter in France just before 1715. This could be a clue.
Can anyone help me have more information on Jean or David Reid , or concerning Elisabeth McKinnon ?

Thank You

Robert

[cessna152towser]

Fascinating story. Sailing to Canada would be a dangerous voyage in the small ships of three hundred years ago. I have Canadian relations, of Scots ancestry, who married into French Canadian families in the province of Quebec and the French families can trace their ancestry back to arriving in Canada from France, and emigrants did cross the Atlantic from France in those days so no reason why they could not also have sailed from Scotland to Canada. One of the lines goes back to a Jean Charles Vacher, born in Canada in 1686 to Jean Guillaume Vacher who was born in Angers, Anjou, France and his wife Marie Anne Barillet who was born in Paris, France.

[Ruanaidh]

An ancestor of mine was Abraham Martin dit L'Écossais (the Scotsman) who was born in France in 1589. There is an unsubstantiated family story that his father was a Scottish nobleman and a supporter of Mary, Queen of Scots. When Elizabeth I executed Mary in 1587, the family was forced to flee to France. Abraham arrived in New France about 1620 with his wife and was one of the first colonialists of Nouvelle France. He was also one of the first navigators of the St. Lawrence River and drew up the first navigational charts of the river.

The land owned by Abraham Martin at the top of Cap-Diamants was called the "Plains of Abraham", a name later extended to the adjacent plateau, on which was fought the famous battle between Wolf and Montcalm for the possession of Québec in 1759.

[northernsky]

The Scots were sailing in HBC ships. As Hudson's Bay Co. ships left England they would make stops in Scotland and the Shetlands and Orkneys to pick up last provisions and more employees. Many a Scotsman went to work in Hudson's Bay. Most of the 'factors' or buyers of fur were Scots. The rival company to the HBC, the Northwest Company was also full of Scot fur traders and explorers. Simon Fraser and Alexander MacKenzie amongst them. amongst them.

[macwilkin]

The Scots were sailing in HBC ships. As Hudson's Bay Co. ships left England they would make stops in Scotland and the Shetlands and Orkneys to pick up last provisions and more employees. Many a Scotsman went to work in Hudson's Bay. Most of the 'factors' or buyers of fur were Scots. The rival company to the HBC, the Northwest Company was also full of Scot fur traders and explorers. Simon Fraser and Alexander MacKenzie amongst them. amongst them.

True, but we're talking the early 1700s here, before the defeat of the French at Quebec in 1759. The heydey of the HBC and the Nor'westers was much later than this time period.

T.

[northernsky]

Okay...you don't like my HBC reference...how about Nova Scotia:
>>In 1620, the Plymouth Council for New England, under King James I (of England) & VI (of Scots) designated the whole shorelines of Acadia and the Mid-Atlantic colonies south to the Chesapeake Bay as New England. The first documented Scottish settlement in the Americas was of Nova Scotia in 1621. On 29 September 1621, the charter for the foundation of a colony was granted by James VI to William Alexander, 1st Earl of Stirling and, in 1622, the first settlers left Scotland. This settlement initially failed due to difficulties in obtaining a sufficient number of skilled emigrants and in 1624, James VI created a new order of Baronets. Admission to this order was obtained by sending six labourers or artisans, sufficiently armed, dressed and supplied for two years, to Nova Scotia, or by paying 3,000 merks to William Alexander. For six months, no one took up this offer until James compelled one to make the first move.<< courtesy of Wikipedia

[macwilkin]

Okay...you don't like my HBC reference...how about Nova Scotia:
>>In 1620, the Plymouth Council for New England, under King James I (of England) & VI (of Scots) designated the whole shorelines of Acadia and the Mid-Atlantic colonies south to the Chesapeake Bay as New England. The first documented Scottish settlement in the Americas was of Nova Scotia in 1621. On 29 September 1621, the charter for the foundation of a colony was granted by James VI to William Alexander, 1st Earl of Stirling and, in 1622, the first settlers left Scotland. This settlement initially failed due to difficulties in obtaining a sufficient number of skilled emigrants and in 1624, James VI created a new order of Baronets. Admission to this order was obtained by sending six labourers or artisans, sufficiently armed, dressed and supplied for two years, to Nova Scotia, or by paying 3,000 merks to William Alexander. For six months, no one took up this offer until James compelled one to make the first move.<< courtesy of Wikipedia

It's not that I don't like it, it's just not in the correct time period.

And the Scots colony in Nova Scotia is too early; that experiment ended by the 1630s, when Nova Scotia/Acadia was turned over to the French. Those few Scottish colonists that remained in Acadia had long been assimilated into Acadian society by the time Robert's ancestors arrived in New France.

My wife's people, the Melanc(s)ons, were rumoured to be of Scottish heritage, but other evidence points to a Yorkshire origin for the surname.

T.

[northernsky]

Feel like Goldilocks...well his ancestors certainly could have come to New France from Scotland via France....

[macwilkin]

Feel like Goldilocks...well his ancestors certainly could have come to New France from Scotland via France....

Of course...one of the most famous was the Chevalier de Johnstone, an ex-Jacobite turned soldier-of-fortune who fought at the Battle of Quebec in 1759. He was one of a number of Scots who served in the French army in the 18th century.

T.

[Ancienne Alliance]

Of course...one of the most famous was the Chevalier de Johnstone, an ex-Jacobite turned soldier-of-fortune who fought at the Battle of Quebec in 1759. He was one of a number of Scots who served in the French army in the 18th century.

T.

WOW ! That's amazing.