Culloden: Transported Prisoners

[Kent Frazier]

Does anyone know if those taken prisoner and transported at Culloden had their families transported also?

I'm trying to see if my 7G-Grandfather may have fought at Culloden and transported as a result. Some information I have supports this theory and other (conflicting birth dates) suggest otherwise.

[Highland Logan]

I have a book with some names. What was his and I'll take a look.

Frank

[Pleater]

Though not the same era, nor the same country, I read a factual account - or so it claimed - of how an English family was forced to go to Australia to find two male relatives who had served their sentance and set themselves up with land to farm.

The family was unable to get work at harvest time as the fact of the transportations was known and other families were hired in preference to them. This gradually eroded their wealth, the various pieces of land they rented were given to others as the leases expired, the older men died or were incapacitated, older women went to other relatives if they had them, younger women were unable to find husbands.

When they sold up all they had left the prices were kept low by agreement between the buyers, so even though they followed the transported men some considerable time later, the crime and punishment (and the village's reaction to it) was entirely responsible for the family leaving.

Just because dates don't match, the consequences of the transportation could have resulted in a family having to follow some time later, as the work and/or wages of a young man were often vital to the stability of a family.


Baroness Anne the mirthful of Fritterton on the Heath

[gilmore]

Though not the same era, nor the same country, I read a factual account - or so it claimed - of how an English family was forced to go to Australia to find two male relatives who had served their sentance and set themselves up with land to farm.

The family was unable to get work at harvest time as the fact of the transportations was known and other families were hired in preference to them. This gradually eroded their wealth, the various pieces of land they rented were given to others as the leases expired, the older men died or were incapacitated, older women went to other relatives if they had them, younger women were unable to find husbands.

When they sold up all they had left the prices were kept low by agreement between the buyers, so even though they followed the transported men some considerable time later, the crime and punishment (and the village's reaction to it) was entirely responsible for the family leaving.

Just because dates don't match, the consequences of the transportation could have resulted in a family having to follow some time later, as the work and/or wages of a young man were often vital to the stability of a family.


Baroness Anne the mirthful of Fritterton on the Heath

I would think a community's reaction to one of its member's being transported for having commited a crime would be far different than that to a transportation due to having participated in a popular uprising.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

I would think a community's reaction to one of its member's being transported for having commited a crime would be far different than that to a transportation due to having participated in a popular uprising.

If you are referring to the Scottish rebellion of 1745-1746 it was far from a broadly popular uprising. It had been more than 50 years since the last of the Stuart Kings had sat on the throne of Great Britain, and by the time that Prince Charles landed at Glenfinan, most of the people in the British Isles were quite comfortable with the political status quo. In terms of real support the 1745 rising failed to attract even 10% of the population-- neither the nobles, the commons, nor the church lent any significant support to the Stuart cause, which is why it faltered and eventually stalled in Derby. The retreat to Scotland was the physical manifestation of the grim political reality that the people of Great Britain preferred the established order over the uncertainty of a return of the House of Stuart.

[Kent Frazier]

I have a book with some names. What was his and I'll take a look.

Frank

Is the book "No Quarter Given"? If so I got the book from inter-library loan.

The name most commonly found in the online genealogy sites is George Thomas Fraser or Frazier. Birth date either 1725 or 1737 in Inverness. I have also seen his name listed as George or Thomas.

There is a Thomas Fraser from Inverness listed in "No Quarter Given" as being taken prisoner at Culloden.

[Highland Logan]

Is the book "No Quarter Given"? If so I got the book from inter-library loan.

The name most commonly found in the online genealogy sites is George Thomas Fraser or Frazier. Birth date either 1725 or 1737 in Inverness. I have also seen his name listed as George or Thomas.

There is a Thomas Fraser from Inverness listed in "No Quarter Given" as being taken prisoner at Culloden.

That's the book. It's awesome as reference material.

Frank