X Marks the Scot - An on-line community of kilt wearers.

   X Marks Partners - (Go to the Partners Dedicated Forums )
USA Kilts website Celtic Croft website Celtic Corner website Houston Kiltmakers

User Tag List

Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 31
  1. #1
    puffer is offline Membership Revoked for repeated rule violations.
    Join Date
    29th December 07
    Location
    KENT WAQ
    Posts
    944
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    A BRIEF Intro to the " All Steel Highland Scots Pistol"

    For those of you who are interested, here is a VERY BRIEF Intro to the "All Steel Ramshorn Highland Scots Pistol". I chose this STYLE, because it is the one most people associate with the Highland Scots Pistol". Highland Scots Pistol = HSP

    NOTE - I AM NOT AN EXPERT but I have a INTEREST & have & am doing research on this pistol.

    Terms
    1. Ramshorn (aka Scroll butt) Here is a "typical "ramshorn"

    Here is another style ( "Heart Butt")

    2. All Steel. The HSP was made also of Brass etc.. but Steel was predominate

    3."Highland Scots" - This is used to designate that this sryle pistol was VERY different from those used by the majority of Scots ( Lowlanders)

    The HSP was UNIQUE
    Some uniqe features
    1. Highland LOCK
    2. Trigger - a Ball
    3. No trigger guard
    4. Vent pick in the butt
    5. Belt hook - although other pistols had belt hooks, the VAST majority of the HPS had this feature.
    6. Engraving - although other pistols were ingraved, ALL (but the last issue Brit. gov. pistol) had at least some engraving. & most was unique.

    Where Made - The majority were made in the Lowlands ( areas abuting the Highlands) (The exception being the Brit. Gov. Issue to the "Highland Reg.s ( these were mainly made in BIRMINGHAM ENGLAND)

    Scottis (Highland) makers - This site will give an idea of some of the makers
    http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/5104037

    Who carrid -
    1.Highland LAIRDS Cheifs ( Fanciest , often a STATIS Symbol)
    2.Common Highlander ( grade depended on $$$ he had)
    3. Military - Highland Reg.s were issued HBSs ( officers most often bought their own & the grade was dependent on their $$)
    4. Military - other - mercenaries & those of Highland heritage ( esp. officers.)
    5. Civilians of Highland heritage located outside of the highlands

    Where carrid & used -
    1 UK,
    2. W. europe (incl. Russia)
    3. The Americas
    $. ETC

    Here are some pictures of the VARIOUS grades

    1. Brit Highland Issue ( PLAINEST)
    2. "Commond"
    3. Better
    $. Fancy



    AND "THE BEAT GOES ON"

    Puffer
    Last edited by puffer; 11th October 08 at 06:58 PM.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    23rd April 05
    Location
    South Chesterfield, VA
    Posts
    1,525
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Thank you for the tutorial. Good pics too.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    11th May 08
    Location
    Louisville, Kentucky, USA
    Posts
    689
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Very cool Puffer! Here is something that might be of interest to you (or anyone else that may be into antique firearms).

    Scottish Pistol "Steel Framed"

  4. #4
    puffer is offline Membership Revoked for repeated rule violations.
    Join Date
    29th December 07
    Location
    KENT WAQ
    Posts
    944
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by macneighill View Post
    Very cool Puffer! Here is something that might be of interest to you (or anyone else that may be into antique firearms).

    Scottish Pistol "Steel Framed"
    My "dream" is to get this kit from TRS, I even have a gun smith who is skilled enough to put it together ( note it requires someone, who not only is a skilled gunsmith, but also a machinest) But it is the ENGRAVING I can not afford BIG $$ for even a nice "common grade"

    Puffer

  5. #5
    puffer is offline Membership Revoked for repeated rule violations.
    Join Date
    29th December 07
    Location
    KENT WAQ
    Posts
    944
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    OOPs I forgot to include some ref. sources besides the site I posted ( I have lots of other sites)

    Printed suggestiions
    1. Very GOOD & inexpensie book ( BASICS)
    "SCOTTISH FIREARMS" by Claude Blair and Robert Woosnam-Savage
    ISBN 0-919316-31-X

    2. One of the best (IMHO)) but expensive
    "The Scottish Pistol - Its History,Manufacture,and Design By Martin Kelvin
    ISBN I-900541-157 & 0-8386-3745-0

    Puffer

  6. #6
    puffer is offline Membership Revoked for repeated rule violations.
    Join Date
    29th December 07
    Location
    KENT WAQ
    Posts
    944
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Here is a site that shows a TRS kit FINISHED.http://www.bolis.com/gallery/album04/IMG_5902

    Cost, don't ask

    Puffer

  7. #7
    Join Date
    22nd September 08
    Posts
    109
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I have not seen one of those before, a question, was the scrolling on the butt just for decoration or was it for a functional reason, knowing the ammount of work that went into making somthing like that, I cant imagine that it started without some seed of a reason?

  8. #8
    Join Date
    23rd August 08
    Location
    Displaced 3rd generation Californian now residing in the "old" State of Jefferson, USA
    Posts
    4,186
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Nice photos and post Puffer. I always enjoy expanding my knowledge.
    [I][B]Nearly all men can stand adversity. If you really want to test a man’s character,
    Give him power.[/B][/I] - [I]Abraham Lincoln[/I]

  9. #9
    Join Date
    11th May 08
    Location
    Louisville, Kentucky, USA
    Posts
    689
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by puffer View Post
    Cost, don't ask
    One can only imagine :mrgreen:. I collect antique firearms so, I can fathom how expensive it might be.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    8th June 04
    Location
    Port Crane, New York
    Posts
    2,531
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Here are some earlier (1600's) types, with snaphaunce locks, mixing brass and steel, and with differing butt styles:







    Notice that a 'brace' of Scottish pistols has the locks on opposite sides of the guns: left side for the left hand pistol, and vice versa.

    Here's an early (1670) all-steel flintlock 'dag.' A lateral sear catches the back of the hammer on this one:



    These images are from Culloden: The Swords and the Sorrows, the Nat'l Trust for Scotland, 1996.
    Brian

    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin

Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. A highland scots pistol ???
    By puffer in forum How to Accessorize your Kilt
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: 19th October 08, 12:25 PM
  2. "The Highland Fling and the hora vied for dance of choice"
    By Monkey@Arms in forum Kilts in the Media
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 4th January 08, 09:45 PM
  3. UK in the News "Manly skirt is not just for Scots anymore"
    By Monkey@Arms in forum Kilts in the Media
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 28th January 07, 04:26 AM
  4. "Three Highland dress experts explain their secrets of success"
    By Monkey@Arms in forum Kilts in the Media
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 20th November 06, 01:35 PM
  5. "An insult to the Scots"
    By Graham in forum General Kilt Talk
    Replies: 44
    Last Post: 15th February 05, 03:25 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

» Log in

User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.0