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9th December 11, 09:25 PM
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Help identify this tartan and subject
I need the help of all the Xmarks detectives out there. This week I was visiting family in Florida and I went to the Museum of Arts & Sciences, Daytona Beach. In the Museum they have a section called the " visible storage area" that is just that, ceramics, sculpture, arms, armour, furniture and paintings- thousands of the stacked behind clear walls. As I came to one section I was amazed to find a beautifully painted life size painting of a Scotsman. I went to the info desk and asked after the painting, they had me meet with the Chief Currator ( who is a very nice Welsh woman) and the painting Currator. They gave me some information that they have after I told them about this informative site and asked if we could gather more info.
Here is the info: Artist is J. Hamilton Mackensie, Title- " PORTRAIT OF A YOUNG SCOTSMAN" Ca. 1900 oil on canvas
I have 2 photos and have requested a closeup of the head area.
![](http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a1cc28b3127ccefe8619e8a88500000030O02CbsmLRqxZA9vPgo/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/)
more to come
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9th December 11, 09:28 PM
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Re: Help identify this tartan and subject
second
![](http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a1cc28b3127ccefe86e36da87d00000030O02CbsmLRqxZA9vPgo/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/)
up close it looks like a dark green velvet doublet.
lets see what the Xmarks detectives can come up with.
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9th December 11, 11:32 PM
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Re: Help identify this tartan and subject
MacDonald or Cameron of Erracht, possibly Cochrane lthough that's much less likely. A close up will confirm if there is a yellow stripe.
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10th December 11, 07:40 AM
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Re: Help identify this tartan and subject
This is the best closeup I can do until the museum sends me one, hope it helps.
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10th December 11, 07:47 AM
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Re: Help identify this tartan and subject
and a closeup of the head
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10th December 11, 08:38 AM
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Re: Help identify this tartan and subject
Very interesting! I'm still on the trail, but here is an interesting site that gives a bit of information regarding the artist, as well as some examples of his other works:
http://www.roeandmoore.co.uk/artist....mes%20Hamilton
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11th December 11, 06:30 AM
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Re: Help identify this tartan and subject
Looks more like a white stripe in which case MacDonell of Glengarry is more likely. The cap badge is difficult to make out. It might just be a standard Scottish Rampant Lion rather than a specific clan one.
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11th December 11, 06:58 AM
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Re: Help identify this tartan and subject
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by SFCRick
and a closeup of the head
![](http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a1cc31b3127ccefe801d543da400000030O02CbsmLRqxZA9vPgo/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/)
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by figheadair
Looks more like a white stripe in which case MacDonell of Glengarry is more likely. The cap badge is difficult to make out. It might just be a standard Scottish Rampant Lion rather than a specific clan one.
having enlarged the badge, it looks like the top quarters -from rear haunch to top of head (demi) of a horse, or possibly lion, rearing up (rampant).
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13th December 11, 04:14 PM
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Re: Help identify this tartan and subject
New clear Tartan pic
![](http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a1cc32b3127ccefe8f48a4b5dd00000030O02CbsmLRqxZA9vPgo/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/)
badge
![](http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a1cc32b3127ccefe8ed97154a400000030O02CbsmLRqxZA9vPgo/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/)
What do you make of the single Eagle feather?, decoration? or something else?
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13th December 11, 06:13 PM
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Re: Help identify this tartan and subject
Cant make out the detail in the badge. Is there anything in the lion's raised paw? If a blade is extending from the paw, length and angle would help determine clan representation.
From body shape, Farquharson, MacDuff and Young are all possible as well as others.
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