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1st April 12, 03:12 AM
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Tartan of the Month - Apr 12: what do you see?
Missed last month but back on track again. Have a crack at this:
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1st April 12, 07:59 AM
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I see Wilson's colours, a good kilting selvedge - herringbone at that - even at the fringe, a nice long fringe, excellent condition save for a wear in the upper right ...
I also see a tag sewn on in the bottom right.
A plaid of some kind perhaps?
Last edited by xman; 1st April 12 at 08:07 AM.
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1st April 12, 08:11 AM
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I see a herringbone selvedge and a tag that reads:
"MUR
TA
TART"
Also, it may just be my monitor, but the whole thing seems kind of "fuzzy".
As usual, SoL
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1st April 12, 10:42 AM
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What's really getting me is that the twill direction seems to change a couple of inches before the fringe... Never seen that before.
A lot of wear in one place - where the thick red stripe meets the blue stripe in the top right portion.
All I can say about the tartan itself is that it's something I'd love to see reproduced - it's a very attractive sett.
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4th April 12, 01:01 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by xman
I see Wilson's colours, a good kilting selvedge - herringbone at that - even at the fringe, a nice long fringe, excellent condition save for a wear in the upper right ...
Wilsons' colours possibily or, just something similar!
A good kilting selvedge - meaning?
I also see a tag sewn on in the bottom right.
And so what conclusion do you draw?
A plaid of some kind perhaps?
Perhaps. what else do you need to know?
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4th April 12, 01:45 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by figheadair
Wilsons' colours possibily or, just something similar!
A good kilting selvedge - meaning?
And so what conclusion do you draw?
Perhaps. what else do you need to know?
The tag might mean that it is a labeled part of a collection somewhere.
We'd need to know the dimensions of the cloth to determine it possible uses if it is still relatively intact.
The herringbone edge should date it. Mid 18th century? Do I have that right?
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4th April 12, 02:30 PM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by xman
The tag might mean that it is a labeled part of a collection somewhere.
We'd need to know the dimensions of the cloth to determine it possible uses if it is still relatively intact.
The herringbone edge should date it. Mid 18th century? Do I have that right?
What do you think?
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4th April 12, 03:48 PM
#8
Welcome back!
The cloth appears to be home-made and of 18th c. provenance (judging by the herringbone selvedge and the presumably "hard" finish to the cloth. It's dimensions and fringing suggest that this cloth was a shawl or shoulder plaid. The amount of red (cochineal?) suggests that the cloth was made for a person of some financial means.
The tag indicates this cloth came from a collection, and the general lack of wear suggests that it was collected while still relatively new and stored for a long period of time in a folded state. I can't make out the writing on the tag, but if that were to be enlarged, the style of penmanship would help establish the general date when it was written.
I'm guessing that this is home-made shawl or shoulder plaid of hard tartan, and was made for a person of the clan gentry sometime in the mid-to-late 18th century, and that it was collected and made part of a collection (possibly the Highland Club of London's collection) at the end of the 18th c. or the beginning of the 19th c.
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4th April 12, 06:36 PM
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1. the herringbone selvedge is along one length (that we can see) and only one fringe edge. I think this says that the piece was cut from a length of cloth instead of being woven for the final product that we see. But, I'm not sure as the second pic shows one herringbone length, but the other length looks smooth and unsewn. Maybe just plain weaving on the right? Sorry, having trouble saying what I mean. Just imagine I'm waving my hands around in an approximation of weaving.
2. looks like single worsted based on the threads seen at the damage in the middle
3. is the damage blue dye related? It seems that most of the damage occurs at places where the blue threads all, but that could be a coincidence of placement of a pin or broach.
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5th April 12, 05:54 AM
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The label is of interest. I'm wondering if it identifies this as one of the Murray tartans. Possibly one from the collection at Blair Castle. Now, having said that, I don't see anything that looks closely like anything like the listed Murray tartans. But this is a lovely tartan and the dyes remind me of the unidentified Antigonish tartans.
I'll keep looking and guessing.
Gu dùbhlanach
Coinneach Mac Dhòmhnaill
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