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23rd June 12, 11:07 AM
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23rd June 12, 12:05 PM
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Just upholding the existing laws, I think. Nothing to do with Health and Safety, more to do with offensive weapons in a public place.
Regards
Chas
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23rd June 12, 01:12 PM
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It's not just the UK. A local town here advertised an event called "Pillage the Village". It was to be a "Pirate and Renaissance event" in a small neighborhood of craft and artisan shops in the town. I thought it might be fun to stop by with some of the grandkids. Since we're reenactors, we have all the "toys" and clothing to set ourselves up as Pirates. When I checked the website for details, I noticed a warning stating, "Please, no weapons". We opted not to participate. My youngest grandson and I did drive up for a look, it was only about 10 minutes away. Very lackluster event. Took us longer to eat a couple of slices of pizza on the way home than to walk through "Pillage the Village"
All skill and effort is to no avail when an angel pees down your drones.
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23rd June 12, 01:40 PM
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u.s. 2nd amendment issues/discussions aside (yes, i know this is not the u.s.), re-enactors without weapons is worse than a ren faire without belly dancers (that is an attempt to draw in zardoz). in this specific instance, remarkably ironic.
maybe i will get a sgian dubh after all.
Last edited by opositive; 23rd June 12 at 01:43 PM.
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25th June 12, 08:17 AM
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 Originally Posted by opositive
u.s. 2nd amendment issues/discussions aside (yes, i know this is not the u.s.), re-enactors without weapons is worse than a ren faire without belly dancers (that is an attempt to draw in zardoz). in this specific instance, remarkably ironic.
maybe i will get a sgian dubh after all.
Ironic is one way to look at it, but I'm pretty sure it has more to do with what the guy quoted in the article said; "It's a concerted effort by Unionist politicians to try and have this event banned because they see it as a crucible for nationalism"
Honestly, if I was involved in it I would be in favor showing up with steel in hand, and seeing what happens. Basically you can't really lose; If the powers that be let you go on with it, it's a quiet victory. If they start detaining folks and confiscating stuff, you can holler 'police state' etc, and get your message out that way.
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25th June 12, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Zardoz
Honestly, if I was involved in it I would be in favor showing up with steel in hand, and seeing what happens.
What you are advocating is against the law and could be construed as incitement to a breach of the peace.
Did you really mean to post that on an open forum? Some sentiments are best kept to oneself.
Regards
Chas
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25th June 12, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Chas
Did you really mean to post that on an open forum? Some sentiments are best kept to oneself.
Regards
Chas
Well Chas, Yes I did. I don't live there, so I don't have a dog in that fight. But- I am of the opinion that if those folks feel the rule is unfair, or motivated for the 'wrong' reasons, they should consider carrying on with their "replica weapons"as they did before the rules got changed, and as I said, see what happens. This is just the opinion of one free man, who is from a land where he is unacustomed to keeping one's sentiments to himself.
And if there is a issue with this thread, take it up with the forum moderator that made the original post, they had to know it might be provocative.
Last edited by Zardoz; 25th June 12 at 11:34 AM.
Order of the Dandelion, The Houston Area Kilt Society, Bald Rabble in Kilts, Kilted Texas Rabble Rousers, The Flatcap Confederation, Kilted Playtron Group.
"If you’re going to talk the talk, you’ve got to walk the walk"
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23rd June 12, 02:15 PM
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Nothing to do with being a re-enactor.
The Scottish Republican Socialist Movement are not re-enactors.
If we are generous we could call them a 'political' organisation in fancy dress.
If we are not generous, we could call them dangerous people running around with lethal weapons who's stated aim is to bring down the duly elected government.
People must make up their own minds, but if we don't have the rule of law, we have precious little else.
Regards
Chas
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23rd June 12, 02:28 PM
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well, if these guys are that bad, then my response has changed. dangerous extremists who openly and actively want violent, public confrontations should not have weapons.
Last edited by opositive; 23rd June 12 at 02:29 PM.
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25th June 12, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Chas
Nothing to do with being a re-enactor.
The Scottish Republican Socialist Movement are not re-enactors.
If we are generous we could call them a 'political' organisation in fancy dress.
If we are not generous, we could call them dangerous people running around with lethal weapons who's stated aim is to bring down the duly elected government.
People must make up their own minds, but if we don't have the rule of law, we have precious little else.
Regards
Chas
If I understand this correctly, it's the SRSM who are organizing the event, but it's the historic reenactors who actually do the march who are being penalized by a foolish ruling. Historic reenactment is hardly new in the UK, and these folks have been (safely!) appearing in public with swords, bows, axes, spears, muskets, and field pieces for decades. To suddenly decide they're a threat to public health and safety is ludicrous in the extreme....
Brian
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