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    A Change of Heart...Braveheart that is.

    "Braveheart" used to be my favorite movie when I was younger. About the time it came out I was getting in touch with my Scottish heritage. I learned that I was Scots on my dad's side. I was exstatic. I appreciated the fact that the Braveheart movie brought attention (at least in my mind) to bagpipes, Scotland, and kilts. However, my friends and I used to joke about the goofs and inconsistencies of the film.

    So, when I had the day off today, I thought I might watch the the entire movie looking for all the mistakes. Thanks to the internet and the slow motion feature on my DVD player, I soon realized how terrible the movie is. It isn't just grossly inaccurate, but there are so many mistakes. I had a good laugh today at Mel Gibson's expense. I hope this doesn't offend anyone, but the movie "Braveheart" is officially no longer my favorite movie (though, I still got chills when Hamish tossed Wallace's sword at the ending scene and still love the theme music).

    On that note, I was trying to find any info on whether a new version of the William Wallace story is in the works. I thought, "Surely there is another good movie about Scotland's greatest hero". But, I could not even find info on an older version of that story. Does anyone know if there is plans to make a new William Wallace movie? Or if there is a good one out? I would even take a "made for TV" version.

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    Came across this, searching for "Braveheart Remake". Failing that, I guess you'll just have to settle for Outlander.
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    Perhaps you should rethink. Braveheart was never meant to be anything more than entertainment. Hollywood etc never promise historical accuracy. Think of Rob Roy or the Highlander etc. And what makes you think a big budget remake of Wallace would be any better? They are not making a documentary, just food for the masses. So enjoy it for what it is.

    BTW the single biggest boost to clan society memberships here in the US came after Braveheart was released so it did do some good.
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    Not specifically William Wallace, but I've heard there is a Robert the Bruce movie in the works ...and then I found this:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb2fGAmz6sw

    Which btw, I have not watched yet...

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    I have heard of a "Braveheart" sequel about Robert the Bruce in the works. As long as Mel Gibson and screenwriter Randall Wallace don`t come within 100 miles of it, at least we can hope. I thought the best part of Braveheart by far was the performance of the late Patrick McGoohan as Edward I.
    http://hollywood-spy.blogspot.com/20...eart-epic.html

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    Choose your own favorite movie, of course, but one of my least favorite things about this board is the people whining that Braveheart is less than a documentary. Thankfully, there's less of that now than there was when I joined a decade ago.

    News flash, folks: Star Wars is not historically accurate, either.
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    Any remake of a William the Wallace film that purported to be accurate would be very short, as there is very very little Factual detail about him. Most of what people "think " they know about him comes from Blind Harrys poem which has been shown to be highly inaccurate.
    Even the title of the film "Braveheart" in incorrect as that title actually belonged to Robert De Brus.(De Bruys) (De Brix) though after his death.
    Perhaps if they make a Robert the Bruce film they should call that Braveheart.
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    I'm very aware that movies are entertainments, not museums, and therefore have that "willing suspension of disbelief" that's necessary.

    Yet, I can't un-know what I know, un-see what I see.

    What struck my eye first about Braveheart is the bizarre... what can it be called? ... hybrid kilt-plaid-thing the costumer invented. It seemed obvious to me that the costumer had seen images of the Great Kilt, and images of the Little Kilt worn with a Long Plaid, and not understanding that he/she was seeing two distinct garments, and not understanding how either was constructed, accidentally invented a strange conflation of the two, neither fish nor fowl. When costumers go to great lengths to get period costumes correct in every detail in many/most other films, I was flabbergasted that the Braveheart costumer didn't do five minutes of research and learn about how these garments looked and were constructed.

    The other preposterous thing was having kilted men riding horses. Hollywood seems very set on this, for some unknown reason.

    About Braveheart and Scottish history I haven't a clue, but the un-historicity of Braveheart seems to strike Scots as clearly as, say, a movie about Abraham Lincoln fighting vampires strikes Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post
    I'm very aware that movies are entertainments, not museums, and therefore have that "willing suspension of disbelief" that's necessary.

    Yet, I can't un-know what I know, un-see what I see.

    What struck my eye first about Braveheart is the bizarre... what can it be called? ... hybrid kilt-plaid-thing the costumer invented. It seemed obvious to me that the costumer had seen images of the Great Kilt, and images of the Little Kilt worn with a Long Plaid, and not understanding that he/she was seeing two distinct garments, and not understanding how either was constructed, accidentally invented a strange conflation of the two, neither fish nor fowl. When costumers go to great lengths to get period costumes correct in every detail in many/most other films, I was flabbergasted that the Braveheart costumer didn't do five minutes of research and learn about how these garments looked and were constructed.

    The other preposterous thing was having kilted men riding horses. Hollywood seems very set on this, for some unknown reason.

    About Braveheart and Scottish history I haven't a clue, but the un-historicity of Braveheart seems to strike Scots as clearly as, say, a movie about Abraham Lincoln fighting vampires strikes Americans.
    I liked that movie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob C View Post
    News flash, folks: Star Wars is not historically accurate, either.
    No Bob! Say it ain't so!

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