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    A Rookie Mistake Ordering Another Kilt

    I know that pant sizes measure much larger than what they claim...they all do it...guess it makes us feel good.

    I've ordered kilts from 9 different kiltmakers over the years and they all say the same thing - MEASURE - DON'T USE YOUR PANT SIZE.

    So, I know this...but I'm ordering my 81st kilt, but I'm in a hurry so I'm ordering stock from USA Kilts. Just a Casual for another trip rafting down the Grand Canyon. I'm on the website checking stock...without thinking plugged in my pant size.

    So the Celtic Nations tartan kilt showed up - but when I tried it on it fits - but too tight to be comfy moving around on a raft in whitewater. Groan...we have met the enemy and he is us.

    Good news, in a quick call to see what they have in stock to express ship to make it in time (hopefully) and they found a Firefighter's Memorial Tartan in my correct size and a Casual - perfect for easy on and off as needed. I love that tartan. It's a beautiful tartan and meaningful since I spent 5 years volunteering with the Phoenix Fire Department's Crisis Wagons.

    I had the Firefighter's Memorial tartan in a Semi-Trad but sold it after losing the 110 lbs.

    So hey, I feel "stupid" or "elderly" but the good news is I'm happy to be able to fly the Firefighter's Memorial tartan down the Grand Canyon of the Colorado River.

    And now I also have a great tartan with the Celtic Nations when I lose some more weight. AND, my kilt inventory is back up to 20 kilts.

    Hope that all makes sense - ye olde basic, "The hurrier I go the behinder I get."
    Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
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    "I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverkilt View Post
    I know that pant sizes measure much larger than what they claim...they all do it...guess it makes us feel good.
    Aka: “ vanity sizing”
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    Where the "I've done this so long I should have known better" thing happens to me is with the pipes.

    The pipes are cantankerous anyhow, and have a way of misbehaving in a way they've not done before, and at the worst possible time. That's IF you do everything you're supposed to do, take every precaution, do all the preparation that 40 years piping has taught through many mishaps.

    As if that's not enough, sometimes I do something that's just plain stupid.

    The worst for me is plain forgetting stuff:

    -showing up at a wedding without my kilt hose

    -showing up at a memorial service without my kilt

    -showing up at a memorial service with the wrong pipes
    Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte

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    One of the worst things I've ever done is leave my pipes sitting in their box in a parking lot after playing for a wedding. The wedding was the day after Princess Di died, so I guess I was a little spacey. I was already home from the wedding when I realized my circa 1910 Lawries were not in the car. So I raced back, feeling a huge relief when I found them just where I had left them, sitting on the asphalt.

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    There are so many snarky comments that could apply. We'll go with someone looked in the box and left them. After all, where does one fence a set of Great Highland Pipes? Despite the price of a set. The odds of another piper happening by are somewhere between slim and none. That piper would also be well aware of the value of the box. Of course, the piper might cruise by in an hour or so to see if the set had been recovered. After all, one wouldn't want anything to happen to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Rose View Post
    There are so many snarky comments that could apply.
    Yes, there's the time I left my pipes on the back seat of my car when my mates and I went into the pub, when I came out my car's back window was smashed... and there were two sets of pipes on my back seat.

    I drove off and left my accordion on the street corner where we were busking...I rushed back and there were two accordions there.

    Do you know what Perfect Pitch is to a banjo player? When you throw a banjo into a skip and it lands on an accordion!
    Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte

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    Quote Originally Posted by gun eagal View Post
    I realized my circa 1910 Lawries were not in the car. So I raced back, feeling a huge relief when I found them just where I had left them...
    Back in the 1980s two very good local pipers left their wonderful early silver & ivory Hendersons on the roof of one of their cars in the car park, they soon realised their mistake and ran back only to find both pipes missing.

    Nothing was seen of them, though both guys kept their eyes open, checking out the pipes on the shoulders of other pipers at Highland Games, watching Ebay and Craig's List etc.

    Then 30 years later the pipes appeared on Ebay, being sold by a Pawn Shop hundreds of miles away.

    A couple days later the pipers appeared at the Pawn Shop with a Police Detective and were able to establish that these were indeed their pipes. (They had numerous old photos of them playing the sets, and they knew very specific details about each set that no-one would be able to guess.)
    Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte

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    Sorry to hear Celtic Nations didn't work out, both for you and for entirely selfish reasons - was hoping to see some pictures, as I've been considering buying one myself.

    Glad to head you got a workaround, though, and it sounds like a very good workaround at that. Sometimes salvaging a bad situation is the best you can do.

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    Wrong pipes?

    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post
    Where the "I've done this so long I should have known better" thing happens to me is with the pipes.

    The pipes are cantankerous anyhow, and have a way of misbehaving in a way they've not done before, and at the worst possible time. That's IF you do everything you're supposed to do, take every precaution, do all the preparation that 40 years piping has taught through many mishaps.

    As if that's not enough, sometimes I do something that's just plain stupid.

    The worst for me is plain forgetting stuff:

    -showing up at a wedding without my kilt hose

    -showing up at a memorial service without my kilt

    -showing up at a memorial service with the wrong pipes
    Wrong pipes, eh? Didn't know. Call me ignorant or uninformed, but i thought one set (Highland Pipes) was the same as another.
    Last edited by Jacques; 10th August 20 at 02:07 PM. Reason: i learned something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacques View Post
    I thought one set (Highland Pipes) was the same as another.
    Yes and no, you can have two sets of Highland pipes, the instruments themselves the same, however one is set up for playing in a pipe band and the other is set up for doing Concert Pitch gigs.

    In the old days Highland pipes were tuned around Concert B flat so your pipes could sound good to piping judges and also be in tune for playing with brass ensembles, pipe organs, etc.

    But the pitch of the Highland pipes kept creeping higher and higher and now they're tuned a quartertone sharp of Concert B flat.

    The new sharp pitch is ingrained with piping judges so serious competition pipe bands have to be tuned that way.

    Here's the 2019 World Champions who, of course, are playing at the modern sharp pitch

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znTbK9F8ArM

    Which means the pipes are too sharp to "play well with others".

    So it behooves pipers who play in competition pipe bands, who also do gigs requiring being in tune to Concert Pitch, to maintain two sets of pipes, one dedicated to the sharp competition pitch and one dedicated to Concert Pitch.

    Here are pipers set up to play at Concert Pitch

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1UvqC8CQbE

    For several years now I bring both sets to every gig just to be sure!

    The alternative, which I did for many years, is to maintain only one set of pipes, and constantly be switching that set back and forth, which can be a hassle.
    Last edited by OC Richard; 10th August 20 at 03:02 PM.
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