Bishop Coming to Visit

**dcommini** · 16th June 21, 10:42 AM

Ok, so quick question for the rabble here... I know we have a few clergy and liturgical type Christians on this board - this is not a question about religion. This Sunday we Orthodox Christians will be celebrating Pentecost, which is one of the major feast days. I usually wear my kilt on these days (with the blessing of my priest). If it is a Vesperal Liturgy - meaning that the service is at night, such as for Christmas and Easter - I will typically wear my black argyle jacket with an evening sporran, and if it is a regular Liturgy (taking place during the day) I will typically wear my light gray polyester kilt jacket with a day sporran.

This weekend, along with Pentecost, our parish's original priest is going to retire and the Metropolitan is coming to visit. So my question is, which should I wear - the black argyle or the light gray polyester? And just to give a little more background, the Metropolitan is the head Bishop of the Antiochian Church in America - the next up from him would be the Patriarch of Antioch, the head Bishop of the entire Antiochian jurisdiction. So this is a pretty special occasion, and even the Liturgy will be what is called a Hierarchical Liturgy which is more complex and festive.

So what does the rabble think? Black argyle with an evening sporran, or light gray polyester with day sporran?

**Father Bill** · 16th June 21, 10:56 AM

What will the 'non-kilted' do? Will they up the game in their wardrobe?

**dcommini** · 16th June 21, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Father Bill

What will the 'non-kilted' do? Will they up the game in their wardrobe?

Very probably. Being as how we are in the South Western part of the country and it gets a little warm here (currently 85°F, or 29°C) there usually aren't a lot of people that come in full suits aside from my brother and I, but since this is a special occasion given it's already a feast day, I know a few parishioners will be dressing up a bit more than normal.

**Jock Scot** · 16th June 21, 02:15 PM

Wear a suit.

**Ninehostages** · 16th June 21, 04:03 PM

In the Western tradition, one wears red and white on Pentecost. Are there and red-and-white tartans that don't look like Italian table cloths?

**Father Bill** · 16th June 21, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by dcommini

Very probably. Being as how we are in the South Western part of the country and it gets a little warm here (currently 85°F, or 29°C) there usually aren't a lot of people that come in full suits aside from my brother and I, but since this is a special occasion given it's already a feast day, I know a few parishioners will be dressing up a bit more than normal.

Where you are and in those traditions of place and religious community, I would suspect you'd be good in the black jacket, but I would be careful not to overdo the sporran or hose too much if you have choices.

**Father Bill** · 16th June 21, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by dcommini

Very probably. Being as how we are in the South Western part of the country and it gets a little warm here (currently 85°F, or 29°C) there usually aren't a lot of people that come in full suits aside from my brother and I, but since this is a special occasion given it's already a feast day, I know a few parishioners will be dressing up a bit more than normal.

Where you are and in those traditions of place and religious community, I would suspect you'd be good in either jacket, but I would be careful not to overdo the sporran or hose too much if you have choices.

**dcommini** · 16th June 21, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

Wear a suit.

Any other Sunday and I would

**dcommini** · 16th June 21, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Ninehostages

In the Western tradition, one wears red and white on Pentecost. Are there and red-and-white tartans that don't look like Italian table cloths?

Typically, here in the US Antiochian jurisdiction, the priests will wear green vestments. The only tartan I currently own is the Armstrong, which has a lot of green - not that I'm trying to copy the vestments, but the parish will also be decked out in green.

**dcommini** · 16th June 21, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Father Bill

Where you are and in those traditions of place and religious community, I would suspect you'd be good in either jacket, but I would be careful not to overdo the sporran or hose too much if you have choices.

I only have single color hose at the moment, I was thinking of wearing lovat blue. My other choices would be charcoal, oat, or black.

The sporran I'd wear is a simple black leather and chrome, I have a black faux rabbit fur one for dressier occasions but that one wasn't even in my thoughts.