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11th October 11, 02:06 PM
#1
Re: Australian "Utilikilts"?
Shaun,
Welcome to xmarks.
Thanks for taking down the photos of my product off your website a couple of weeks ago. My issue is with your supplier who's done a knock-off of my product and then supplies you with photos from my website. Fortunately I have seen this product up close, and it's a far cry from what I make. (Given that it costs you $26/kilt I can see how you can make money)
I see that this thread may run parallel to another thread started a couple of years ago. This chap was touting that he was selling kilts he got from Scotland made out of wool for a fraction of what was on the market then. He really didn't do his research and as a result his business went belly up in short order. The kilts were South Asian made, from man made fibres and he was using photos from his supplier that were the property of other well known companies (unfortunately not to him)
Here's the link
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...tish-ca-45887/
So, in fact, the members here are giving you some advice so that you, might be successful as a trusted retailer.
Yes a kilt is a kilt, however, each maker has a trademark, as it were, a style, or take, on it that identifies it as a brand. As a reseller you will get to know these brands, and what sets them apart.
English Bloke has given, in my mind, some very sage advice.
Possibly you could convey the problems you are incurring with the supplied photo's to your supplier and tell them to wise up, whether they will listen, who knows?
All the best
Robert,
Owner, designer and maker of the genuine "RKilt"
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11th October 11, 02:17 PM
#2
Re: Australian "Utilikilts"?
For information.
There are other replies from Shaun which are currently going through moderation so please do not assume that he does not wish to reply to matters raised.
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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11th October 11, 09:25 PM
#3
Re: Australian "Utilikilts"?
 Originally Posted by McClef
For information.
There are other replies from Shaun which are currently going through moderation so please do not assume that he does not wish to reply to matters raised.
I am glad that you let us know. It would be a very dark mark against a person who lets fly with one post then ignores the responses.
And when he is back I will want to know: What is a 'whinger'?
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11th October 11, 09:39 PM
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Re: Australian "Utilikilts"?
 Originally Posted by Chirs
I am glad that you let us know. It would be a very dark mark against a person who lets fly with one post then ignores the responses.
And when he is back I will want to know: What is a 'whinger'?
Translation to American is a whiner, one who complains non stop to the point of irritation (pronunciation is win-ger)
Don't know if it's the same translation to Canadian
Shoot straight you bastards. Don't make a mess of it. Harry (Breaker) Harbord Morant - Bushveldt Carbineers
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11th October 11, 09:54 PM
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Re: Australian "Utilikilts"?
 Originally Posted by Downunder Kilt
Translation to American is a whiner, one who complains non stop to the point of irritation (pronunciation is win-ger)
Don't know if it's the same translation to Canadian
Thank you. And, fortunately, I do speak a bit of American so your translation works for me.
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11th October 11, 10:42 PM
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Re: Australian "Utilikilts"?
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12th October 11, 06:45 AM
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Re: Australian "Utilikilts"?
Just want you all to know I am someone who has bought through Shaun at Oz-Kilts.
I can see he has made some unfortunate errors of judgment. As a yound start up company I think & hope he will learn from his mistakes. I believe he has the potential to deliver a good unique product.
I believe I was his first customer. This was my first foray into kilts. I am in Australia
I had never actively pursued getting a kilt until a recent accident. (I might post that story on the Newbie section as it is probably unique.) Suffice to say I wanted a durable kilt and fast. The need for speed meant I first looked local. After a quick bit of research I found some traditional kilts immediatley available and could get something in a tartan which matched my heritage but dicovered these were way out of my price comfort zone.
A friend then told me about utility kilts. I jumped on the web and searched "Utility Kilt, Australia". Up popped Oz Kilts. These interested me because they looked so practical - robust and with pockets. Just what I wanted. I stopped searching. So at that stage was blissfully unaware of Uitilkilts and all the other off-shore options.
I rang Shaun. He was easy to reach and cool to talk to. He assured me a kilt would be available in three weeks (which was not as fast as I really wanted). Well it actually took five and that was dissapointing. I understand the problem lay with his suppliers. The kilt itself appeared great but I had ordered a size too small. DAMN! It was wholly ME who made that mistake (not Shauns & I know better now!). So I had to send it back
Now that I know what Utilikilt looks like, I assure you they are not the same. Amongst other things, Shauns sit much higher on waist (more like a tradional kilt) and have 3 nice leather straps. To me, who although untrained in kilts, has an idea on clothing quality in material and construction. Oz Kilts are good value for money. The fabric, weight, stitching and leather quality were all fine. I would have been happy with it.
My once urgent need is no longer current. And I've had time to do a ton of research (including a lot from trawling through this great site). I consider myself well informed.
This week I reluctantly asked for a refund (Shaun had always been clear refunds were absolutley no problem if not completely satisfied and he was true to his word). The only reason I am not buying an Oz Kilt now is because I want to be able to throw a kilt into the washing machine and I felt the leather straps on Shauns might not appreciate that.
I have now ordered a not dissimlar priced utility kilt but with fabric straps from a competitor. (NB total price is significantly higher due to international freight). I will be very interested to compare the quality differences
I liked dealing with Shaun despite some teething problems and I do like his product. I would not rule out an Oz Kilt in my wardrobe in the future. I wish Oz Kilts well.
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11th October 11, 09:13 PM
#8
Re: Australian "Utilikilts"?
 Originally Posted by Canuck
Shaun,
Welcome to xmarks.
Robert,
Owner, designer and maker of the genuine "RKilt"
And this is all I would want because the Genuine RKilt is a great kilt and the quality of the materials, workmanship and service is exemplary.
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14th October 11, 02:28 PM
#9
Re: Australian "Utilikilts"?
I regret to announce that Eauford has forfeited his right of reply by not complying with repeated requests by the Owner and Moderators to turn down his comments and phraseology. He was given every opportunity to do so.
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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15th October 11, 04:12 AM
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Re: Australian "Utilikilts"?
 Originally Posted by McClef
I regret to announce that Eauford has forfeited his right of reply by not complying with repeated requests by the Owner and Moderators to turn down his comments and phraseology. He was given every opportunity to do so.
You should have just posted them anyway Trefor, I'm sure I for one, am robust enough to handle the heat although it's reassuring to know that you care enough to protect me.
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