How far back is too far?

**AbuMaia** · 15th February 19, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Hirsty

Since most people move around a bit you'll tend to find that most Scots can lay claim to a few tartans in their lineage. It is worth looking at regional tartans as well. As mentioned above, many people go for a tartan that they find most aesthetically pleasing.

I was just thinking of this. A new branch of my family tree was recently revealed, and it includes some folk who lived in the Fife area for many generations, though are not of a major clan surname. I was about to go look to see if there was a Fife tartan. (Amusingly, the same branch also shows I'm a distant relation to Voldemort.

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**Karl R** · 15th February 19, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by AbuMaia

I was about to go look to see if there was a Fife tartan.

It looks like there are two district tartans (one recent, one from the late 1800s) plus several fashion tartans:
https://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/qR...rchString=fife

**AbuMaia** · 15th February 19, 03:04 PM

Thanks for the link. If I do get around to getting a Fife tartan someday, it'll probably be the Duke of Fife version.

**Taskr** · 19th February 19, 11:18 AM

interesting inquiry to me, being a mix of Macs. While the genealogy is well recorded to MacDonald Clan Ranald, a historic portrait found online is a visual support; looks like my daughter.

**Karl R** · 19th February 19, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by EdinSteve

We don’t usually choose other items of clothing on a familial basis, rather on a liking for the fabric or the cut of the garment

So ... if you were buying a rugby jersey to wear when attending a match, would you choose one based on your favorite colors ... or would you choose one based on the colors of the team you're cheering for?

I might wear a shirt with my employer's logo on it. I wouldn't wear a shirt with a competitor's logo on it, regardless of the fabric, the cut, the color, or how well designed the logo is.

When I was a student, I wore a letter jacket in my school's colors. I wouldn't have chosen other colors, even though it would have been easy to find colors that I found more aesthetically appealing.

Clothing is used to demonstrate our affiliations. For kilts/tartans, that's frequently a familial affiliation.

**Tarheel** · 20th February 19, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Karl R

So ... if you were buying a rugby jersey to wear when attending a match, would you choose one based on your favorite colors ... or would you choose one based on the colors of the team you're cheering for?

I might wear a shirt with my employer's logo on it. I wouldn't wear a shirt with a competitor's logo on it, regardless of the fabric, the cut, the color, or how well designed the logo is.

When I was a student, I wore a letter jacket in my school's colors. I wouldn't have chosen other colors, even though it would have been easy to find colors that I found more aesthetically appealing.

Clothing is used to demonstrate our affiliations. For kilts/tartans, that's frequently a familial affiliation.

You hit the nail on the head Karl. There is the idea of defending an alternate choice if you have the fortitude to do so. Often, confrontation will not arise.

**Steve Ashton** · 21st February 19, 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by Karl R

So ... if you were buying a rugby jersey to wear when attending a match, would you choose one based on your favorite colors ... or would you choose one based on the colors of the team you're cheering for?

I might wear a shirt with my employer's logo on it. I wouldn't wear a shirt with a competitor's logo on it, regardless of the fabric, the cut, the color, or how well designed the logo is.

When I was a student, I wore a letter jacket in my school's colors. I wouldn't have chosen other colors, even though it would have been easy to find colors that I found more aesthetically appealing.

Clothing is used to demonstrate our affiliations. For kilts/tartans, that's frequently a familial affiliation.

While I agree with everything you say, let me turn it around.

There is no rule, not even a convention or expectation that you must wear a team color jersey when attending a footy match.
You can wear any shirt of your choosing.

There is no rule, convention or expectation that someone must wear a letterman's jacket in school colors while at school or later in life.
You can choose to wear any style or color jacket.

I have no Highland Clan or Scottish family association. Just one ancestor who, in the early 1800's, listed on a census form that his father was born in Scotland.
So I wear no Clan affliated Tartans. But I am a kiltmaker, so -

I have a Highland Granite Tartan kilt made by Barb Tewksbury.
I wear the Isle of Skye Tartan just because the colors are so magnificently beautiful.
I wear the Black Watch Tartan, weathered version, for the same reason.
I wear the Victoria, City of Gardens Tartan because I designed it as my gift to my adopted city.
I wear The Company of Adveturers/Hudson' Bay Co. Tartan for, well, I live in Canada.
I wear the USMC Dress Blue Tartan.
And I guess the closest I come to a Clan Tartan is my X Marks Tartan kilt.

**Singlemalt** · 21st February 19, 02:21 PM

I wear the tartan of my surname, usually the hunting version because I like it better.

If I see someone else wearing the same tartan (rare but it has happened). I would certainly make a point of speaking to them.

If we shared the surname I would be pleased and discuss potential blood ties.

If they said it was because of their Great Grandfather on their mother's side I would still be pleased but less interested in seeking a blood relationship which is so far removed.

If they said "I just like the colours" I would be mildly miffed but certainly not enough to say anything unkind. I have no rights of ownership of the tartan any more than I would a street called my surname. (Unless it was named for me but I have yet to do anything notable enough for that.)