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    Quote Originally Posted by wsk View Post
    If I wander down the High Street, pop into a kilt maker's shop, buy a kilt, and then within the hour pop into the kilt shop at the other end of the street for another kilt, I could claim that I'm accumulating kilts at 17,520 per year. This then would give a 1.863 kH rating. Who's king of the mountain now?
    Is it about being King of the Mountain?. I'm deeply envious if you have both two decent kiltmakers on your highstreet, and the financial wherewithal to go at that rate, however you measure it!

    Quote Originally Posted by wsk View Post
    To not include longevity wrongly diminishes Hamish's achievement and falsely promotes those of us who are lesser mortals. Goals worthy of achievement should require us to strive.
    brethren here?
    Ah! I think I detect a note of competition here! With kilts you can count on one hand, I humbly yield to those with deeper addictions.

    Quote Originally Posted by wsk View Post
    So, if I take this same extreme example and include what one might call Hamish time, then I think I get a more realistic rating:


    Let:
    k = number of kilts I own: 2

    Hk = number of kilts Hamish owns: 76

    t = time in years that I've owned kilts: 0.000114

    Ht = time in years that Hamish has owned kilts (Hamish Time): 7.972


    kt = rate that I claim to have acquired kilts per year: kt = k/t = 2 / 0.000114 = 17520

    Hkt = rate that Hamish has acquired kilts per year: Hkt = Hk/Ht = 76 / 7.972 = 9.532


    H = Hamish Rating (for Hamish this number is always 1)
    Then my Hamish Rating is:

    H = (kt/Hkt)*(t/Ht) = (17520/9.532)*(0.000114/7.972) = 0.026
    By this method RiverKilt (55 kilts in 31 months) has a 0.723 Hamish rating. No small achievement that. I am a mere 52 mH by this method.
    I like this idea as a set of modifications to the unit, but if you're going to weight for time, I wonder if you'd need to adjust for the total duration of ownership for each kilt not for the bulk. That would further enhance Hamish's glory, and diminish the newbies by comparison. Perhaps you'd like to propose a revision to the draft standard?

    Best regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by McClef View Post
    I can't do the maths but have acquired 18 kilts in 10 months and 19 when the Maple Leaf arrives.

    I don't intend to try to acquire too many more for a while at least which would tend to slow down my rate on an exponential basis (whatever that rate is measured in the SI Hamish unit)!
    18 kilts in 10 months is about 4.15 Hamish (as originally proposed)! Wow you're in deep!

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    Gosh! Thanks for the calculation Steve!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sjrapid View Post
    Is it about being King of the Mountain?. I'm deeply envious if you have both two decent kiltmakers on your highstreet, and the financial wherewithal to go at that rate, however you measure it!
    'Twas simply an extreme example to illustrate my point. Nothing more.

    Quote Originally Posted by sjrapid View Post
    Ah! I think I detect a note of competition here! With kilts you can count on one hand, I humbly yield to those with deeper addictions.
    For me this is not a race. I'm just geek enough to think about stuff like this and get a small amount of enjoyment from it.

    Quote Originally Posted by sjrapid View Post
    I like this idea as a set of modifications to the unit, but if you're going to weight for time, I wonder if you'd need to adjust for the total duration of ownership for each kilt not for the bulk. That would further enhance Hamish's glory, and diminish the newbies by comparison. Perhaps you'd like to propose a revision to the draft standard?

    Best regards
    Too much work to do it for each kilt. Might be interesting to do but still too much work. Were we all geeks, wholly dyed in the wool, it would be a no-brainer; but, since we're not, I suspect that keeping the rating math simple is the more universally acceptable policy.

    I had thought that my post was a proposed revision to the draft standard. Splash_4 has already done the prototype implementation so it would seem that the draft is well on its way to adoption.

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    It seems appropriate that no matter what formula you use the mighty Hamish is still the one. Us young upstarts who are >1, like Myself, Riverkilt, McClef and all are still compared to our Hamish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccga3359 View Post
    It seems appropriate that no matter what formula you use the mighty Hamish is still the one. Us young upstarts who are >1, like Myself, Riverkilt, McClef and all are still compared to our Hamish.
    That would be <1. Upstarts are less than 1. Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wsk View Post
    I had thought that my post was a proposed revision to the draft standard. Splash_4 has already done the prototype implementation so it would seem that the draft is well on its way to adoption.
    Go for it! The website excel sheet is neat, and a java app would be neater. If you could implement some scheme where those that with to make their score public could do so, that wuld be neater still.

    I guess the ultimate would be to write a custom extension for vBulletin, and have Hank and the mods adopt it. But this would be a long way down the track. (grin!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjrapid View Post
    Go for it! The website excel sheet is neat, and a java app would be neater. If you could implement some scheme where those that with to make their score public could do so, that wuld be neater still.

    I guess the ultimate would be to write a custom extension for vBulletin, and have Hank and the mods adopt it. But this would be a long way down the track. (grin!)

    Best regards
    The honor of seeing the standard adopted should be yours. It is after all your brainchild.

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