Quote Originally Posted by The Barry View Post
Puffer, you're a Douglas?
That Sir is a good ?? There are MANY who say that I can lay claim, to being a "Douglas", & others who say no. Here is a "thumbnail".

1.In ca 1620 John Hayden, a SCION of one of the "branches" of "The Haydens"-English, notified His "Family" that he was marrying a Scots Lass.They said NO WAY. If you do, we will "disinherit you!! WHY ?? Apparently she was not only a DOUGLAS, but, a "BLACK DOUGLAS"

2. Despite this, they married,, boarded as ship & came to Amer. in 1622.

3. Was he "disinherited" ?? Yes, but they & their prodigy ( my Mother's side ) "landed on their feet" According to "Family History" ( my Grandmother, who was the "last of "this" Hayden line & family historian) "Mary Douglas" (called respectively "the BLACK DOUGLAS" was the Matriarch.

4.As you can observe, my "ties" to the "Douglas clan" is through the "FEMALE" & obviously "watered down after almost 400 years.

5. My personal position = I honor & I am Proud of my "ties" with the "Black Douglas" & I have "claimed" the "modern Tartan of a "BLACK DOUGLAS"



Puffer.