Ties,regimental,university,college, club.

[M. A. C. Newsome]

I'l just chime in to say that I also think regimental/club ties look great with the kilt, and for those who like the look but are not entitled to wear a particular design, it is possible to find ties in this style that are not affiliated with a particular regiment, school, etc.

For example, I found this tie in a menswear store while on vacation eariler this year, and the colors go splendidty with my kilt.

[gilmore]

...We in the UK wear more ties than you chaps over there,that I understand,but we over here have a more subtle way of demonstrating our,military past,university past, college, or club than you chaps seem to do over there.We don't go in for unit badges,insignia and all that over here, when retired. What do we do?We wear a tie! ...
I understand that regimental,club,university,college ties are not common in the USA, they do exist, I will prove it in a minute!The great thing is that these ties do go well with the kilt for any sort of business,church type function. I am surprised that as the USA are renowned for picking up on good ideas this one has not taken off over there. You ex military men(not sure that the ex military women would be interested) could have your own unit ties. I note that the 101st airborne do, by the way!

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I suspect that much of Americans' not wearing such ties has to do with the weather. In most of the country it's so much warmer most of the year than in the UK. Ties hold heat, and just aren't as comfortable to wear as an open shirt. In fact there is an ecological debate about energy wasted in cooling office buildings sufficiently for men in suits and ties to feel comfortable, rather than men simply not weating jackets and ties at work. And as more women enter the workplace wearing skirts, dresses, and blouses not usually buttoned at the neck, they often come down on the side of not cooling offices.

Nonetheless, ties with diagonal stripes are aesthetically pleasing, I think, and there was a vogue for them in the 1950's-70's. I guess one would characterize them as pseudo-regimental or old school ties, that didn't represent anything.

[Jock Scot]

Funnily enough Matt, some colours of regimental/club ties have such odd hues that they match up with very little! Yet they are worn with pride from funerals(oh yes!) to weddings, from a garden party at Buckingham Palace to Henley Regatta ,tennis at Wimbledon to the grouse moors of Perthshire, around the home to going to the pub and no one worries one jot if the colours match.

[macwilkin]

Jock,

Believe it or not, there are some of Yanks that already knew about the regimental/club tie. I frequently wear the tie of an organization I belong to, the Military Order of the Loyal Legion of the USA, with my Highland attire, as one of my Scottish ancestors was an officer in an Iowa regiment during the Civil War.

I also have a tie for the Society of King Charles the Martyr and the Order of St. Vincent, two Anglican organizations I belong to.

I prefer the rosette to the metal lapel badge as a way to denote membership in a club/organization:

http://www.dexterrosettes.com/

Regards,

Todd

[McMurdo]

I too knew of regimental ties and was recently given my Uncles Royal Navy tie, he severed in WWII. I however will not wear it. I believe the same as Jock if you were not part of a particular regiment, university, college or club wearing the tie associated with it is simply bad form.

[Jock Scot]

Jock,

Believe it or not, there are some of Yanks that already knew about the regimental/club tie. I frequently wear the tie of an organization I belong to, the Military Order of the Loyal Legion of the USA, with my Highland attire, as one of my Scottish ancestors was an officer in an Iowa regiment during the Civil War.

I also have a tie for the Society of King Charles the Martyr and the Order of St. Vincent, two Anglican organizations I belong to.

I prefer the rosette to the metal lapel badge as a way to denote membership in a club/organization:

http://www.dexterrosettes.com/

Regards,

Todd

Never said otherwise Todd------ I think I did mention 101st airborne as an example and I note that Smart Turnout do mention many US universities too.

Out of interest we(the Brits) don't do the lapel badge much and the rosette hardly at all, I think.In fact I don't think I have ever seen a UK one.

[Bugbear]

I have several ties with diagonal stripes, but I can't think of any thing that I have belonged to that had a tie like the ties being discussed.

Unfortunatly, I have one tartan four-in-hand tie.

[macwilkin]

Never said otherwise Todd------ I think I did mention 101st airborne as an example and I note that Smart Turnout do mention many US universities too.

Out of interest we(the Brits) don't do the lapel badge much and the rostte hardly at all, I think.In fact I don't think I have ever seen a UK one.

Jock,

Apologies for my attempt at humour that failed.

I've seen a number of lapel badges from organisations in the UK; the C. of E. Verger's Guild, for example, offers one for its members. (Whether it is worn of course is another story!)

The rosette originated in France from the larger ones worn on medals, such as the Legion of Honour. MOLLUS, according to tradition, was the first US society to adopt one in the 1870s. I have seen a picture of President Benjamin Harrison, an ex-Union Army officer, wearing one during his Presidency.

T.

[Jock Scot]

Jock,

Apologies for my attempt at humour that failed.

I've seen a number of lapel badges from organisations in the UK; the C. of E. Verger's Guild, for example, offers one for its members. (Whether it is worn of course is another story!)

The rosette originated in France from the larger ones worn on medals, such as the Legion of Honour. MOLLUS, according to tradition, was the first US society to adopt one in the 1870s. I have seen a picture of President Benjamin Harrison, an ex-Union Army officer, wearing one during his Presidency.

T.

Oh come on Todd! Your humour was noted ,hence the smiley at the end of the sentance.

I don't venture into religeous circles,if I can help it,so I know nothing about the Guild of Vergers. The British Legion is the only lapel badge that I can think of at the moment.

I know a bit about the Legion d'Honneur as I have seen a discreet ribbon worn in one of my French relative's lapel botton hole.

[bricelythgoe]

I have a quick question. I was told (particualarly by my wife) that stripes and plaid never go together. Now I know it is a TARTAN that we wear, but it is called plaid to many. Is that a problem at all?

I saw the picture earlier in the thread of someone wearing one and I thought it looked great. I wonder if I could fine one for my university.