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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    I say steady on there! Some will find comments like that offensive. Me for one!
    Jock, you must also accept that some people find such positions of power offensive.
    It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom -- for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    Jock, you must also accept that some people find such positions of power offensive.
    Paul, I think that if you look very carefully, you will find that the Earl of Wessex has no position of power at all. He does, on the other hand, have a position of privilege, into which he was born. Neither he, nor you, nor I could choose our parents. How can the accident of birth be offensive? It is like blaming a child for having the wrong colour of eyes or skin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chas View Post
    Paul, I think that if you look very carefully, you will find that the Earl of Wessex has no position of power at all. He does, on the other hand, have a position of privilege, into which he was born. Neither he, nor you, nor I could choose our parents. How can the accident of birth be offensive? It is like blaming a child for having the wrong colour of eyes or skin.

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    Chas, I realise my comment was a little intentionally vague, but I never meant that at all.
    I was directing my argument to the state of privileges and how these can be refused, therefore this is very much different to someone being born with an inherited physical feature.
    It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom -- for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    Jock, you must also accept that some people find such positions of power offensive.
    I do indeed understand that and I have some sympathy for that point, however there are ways of voicing those opinions in a courteous way. I may also add that there are those of us who consider positions of power and privilege can, in the right circumstances, be used for good purposes. As in this case. Why be so grudging about it?
    Last edited by Jock Scot; 6th March 10 at 01:37 PM. Reason: more thumbs than fingers.

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    The pros and cons about power and privilege etc. are not appropriate to this thread.

    Most countries have a "first family" in one form or another. As Jock has hinted, ours has a concept of noblesse oblige and work hard in varying kinds of service.

    Some of them wear the kilt in circumstances that are considered appropriate to the occasion. Some of us think that this particular occasion is very appropriate.
    [B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.

    Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
    (Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

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