Gaelic translation needed-tat advice as well

**berserkbishop** · 12th November 09, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Tobus

Yeah, I heard that tattoos were a "fad" too when I got my first one 15 years ago. I wish people would stop saying that. A fad is something that everybody gets all hyped up about for a short while and then it falls out of fashion and goes away. Seasonal clothing trends are fads. But it seems clear that tattoos among mainstream society are here to stay, which means they are not simply a fad. The younger generation sees tattoos as more 'normal' than the older generation does, and they accept tattoos. This mentality will likely stay with them as they age; they're not going to wake up one day and decide tattoos should go back in the proverbial closet.

Sorry if this post is a threadjack, but it's one of those phrases that has annoyed me ever since I first heard it. Just because tattoos have become mainstream does not make them a fad. Certain types of tattoos could be fads, but I honestly don't see the popularity of tattoos waning at all. It's only gotten more popular since I started paying attention 15 years ago when I got my first.

I dont mind the thread jack at all since it is precisely what I meant when I said the Navy had a long history of tattoos. That is not a fad, it is part of the culture just as tattoos being more readily accepted by my generation is part of the culture.

Over all though, that is not what I wanted this thread to turn into, though it has gone that direction. Any more posts of rampant lion, or any Celtic tattoos would be appreciated.

**WClarkB** · 13th November 09, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by Tobus

A fad is something that everybody gets all hyped up about for a short while and then it falls out of fashion and goes away. Seasonal clothing trends are fads.

Exactly, and when you see that 15 years is but a mere whisp of a blink of an eye you will then understand my comment. As a youngster (ca 25) I cared for WWII vets, as crusty a group of infidels as you would wish, not a few blushed (literally) that they had gotten them the 30-40 years previously. It is one thing to wear funny clothes and an odd haird0 in your high-school yearbook and another to explain the thing to your great grandkids. I am grieved that Bishop after asking for "advice on a tat" should take umbrage at a rather benign comment. I think Jim's (thescot's) comments to be all that is need to said about that though.

Regretting I offered advice when asked,

walt

**thescot** · 12th November 09, 03:02 PM

Having upbraided, let me now make a peace offering of a bunch of photos of Scottish tattoos for your consideration. There are 105 on this site, and some are very nice.

http://www.ratemyink.com/?action=sr&...tish%20tattoos

**Tobus** · 13th November 09, 11:17 AM

Exactly, and when you see that 15 years is but a mere whisp of a blink of an eye you will then understand my comment.

Again, for something to be a fad, it would be a temporary style that goes away. Tattoos among normal people has not gone away, nor does it show any sign of doing so. Like I said, there are now several generations of people who accept tattoos as non-shameful. Starting with Generation X, probably, and now their kids which are old enough for tattoos as well. Given that tattoos have worked their way into everyday life, I see absolutely no reason to think the trend will magically disappear within the next several generations.

Just because the trend is relatively new doesn't make it a fad. I find that the folks who label it as a fad are usually simply trying to belittle it or use the term as an insult. As if to imply that anyone who would get a tattoo is doing so only to fit in with the crowd (which is usually the case with fads). This, in my opinion, displays a bit of ignorance or misunderstanding as to why people get them. And I mean no offense to anyone by that comment. But just because someone doesn't understand why others would want tattoos doesn't make it a fad; nor does it justify belittling entire generations of people who get them.

**WClarkB** · 13th November 09, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Tobus

Again, for something to be a fad, it would be a temporary style that goes away. Tattoos among normal people has not gone away, nor does it show any sign of doing so. .

vide supra

**berserkbishop** · 13th November 09, 01:47 PM

Enough, launch all the insults you want my way. I dont really care. I wanted some advice ON DESIGN not on the finer points of the morality and significance of a tattoo. I even requested that the argument went no further, but things have snowballed (granted I caused that some of the problem by asking people not to post their personal feelings on tattoos in this thread in a "brusque" manner.) Sorry to sully the board with this garbage.

Close this thread down mods. I will take my inquiries elsewhere.